I want to hear what you guys recommend on the proper way to size your bet pre-flop and post-flop. I have my own ideas but want to hear some other strategies..Sorry I am new to the site also so Aloha to everyone.
So can you give me some advice on correct bet sizing?
Thanks
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Thread: NLHE Bet Sizing
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05-10-2009 #1
NLHE Bet Sizing
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05-10-2009 #2
Bet enough to deny them draws when you have a decent hand.
Bet enough to get a call when you have a strong hand and want a call.
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05-10-2009 #3
Preflop potting is often good.
Postflop 2/3 - full pot works.
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05-10-2009 #4
For value? Take the first number you think about. Double it.
iif u raise my raise one more ****ing time i will come over there and slit ur throat
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05-11-2009 #5
It depends totally on the type of game you're in...
If you're in a $0.50/$1 game and the standard raise is $3.50 - See how much respect/lack of respect that raise gets. One thing I used to struggle with particularly in NLHE is how to play big hands from the blinds... Say, you're in the BB with Aces and it's a 6 way limp pot... To raise to $3.50 with Aces is a horrible play because of the size of the pot already - If there's $6 in the pot already, the chances are the players are going to call from $2.50 more - And as soon as one calls, you can bet your bottom dollar everyone else is going to climb on the value train!
Some donks will be thinking "Awesome! I've got Aces against 6 players... I'll bust 'em all!" - The chances are that's not going to happen and/or you're going to go broke. Sometimes a deceptive over-raise can be the ticket... Bet the pot... Or even just over the pot... If you still get a whole table of callers then proceed with caution... If you get one or two callers then that's ideal - You should be able to put them on a hand...
Obviously this doesn't necessarily just apply to picking up a hand in the blinds!
The key to raising with any kind of hand in NLHE is trying to manoevre the hand in a way in which you can get all of your money in good: Particularly with Aces. Think "How can I get all of my money in here as soon as possible" - And that doesn't mean in a donkey reckless way! With a few limpers I'd maybe buff my raise up to 4X BB at least... After all, although you want action with your big hands, you'd rather take down a $20 pot with Aces pre-flop than see a flop against 6 or 7 players with Aces - That just causes trouble dude!
Hands like suited connectors are kinda the same... Generally you DO want action with them... But then again... Unless you play them like you have a big hand, you won't make a big hand! Just try and adapt to the table action, and remember that the size of the pot is KEY to you're betting size and patterns!
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05-11-2009 #6
wow good advice especially from that last poster. Thank you and keep them coming
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05-11-2009 #7
the advice you gather is going to be far too general to do you any good.
you don't even mention if you are a cash game, tournament, or sng player.
regardless, here are a few random tips I have learned over the years
-Size your value bets as they would be bluffs, and vice versa(size your bluffs as they would be valuebets). for instance lets say you are valuebetting a hand like top two pair on a rainbow board that looks like
89TQ 2. A lot of players bet like 1/3 or 1/2 of the pot in this situation which is a mistake because
1. This size of bet might set you up to get bluff check raised
2. Most people are not going to put in a bluff for 1/2 or 1/3 of the pot
-"Give em some rope!" -unknown
Always give your opponents perceived fold equity. For instance lets say you have 22 on the button in a heads up, 50c/100 cash game. You make it $2.5, he makes it $7, and you call with position and set odds. The flop comes 2 K 7. Your opponent checks, and you decide to make a bet of like 10. he calls. turn is blank. He checks. at this point, the amount of your opponents stack is not going to be much more than the pot. A lot of players would push all in or bet almost the size of the pot. This looks pretty strong, and it's tough to call off with most of our opponents likely range (something like AQ, QQ, JJ, TT, etc) so in this situation i just might bet like $12. This gives our opponent perceived fold equity on the turn and if they call, they might feel pot committed on the river.
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05-12-2009 #8
This is just what I do - 6max cash
Preflop
UTG & MP 3.5 -4x bb depending how tight/loose table is
CO 3x bb unless super loose calling station on button or in blinds than 4x to build a bigger pot
Button 2.5x bb unless super loose calling station in blinds than 3-4x to build a bigger pot
I know people that will min bet from the button with nits in the blinds.
one rule of thumb that I use alot is if there are limpers in already I will raise 4x bb + 1bb per limper
blinds 3bet size is 4 -5x open raise to make them pay to have position on my for the rest of the hand
Postflop
depends on number of callers/board texture/effective stacks/calling range of the callers and sometimes my hand strength
example:
dry flop, one caller I'll cbet around 1/2 pot with air and made hands unless player is a calling station than pot is usually good w/ made hands and 1/2 pot or checking back with air
semi wet flop 3/4 - full pot depending on number of people still in hand and their tendencies
wet flop depends on the situation can go from a check/fold to 1/2 pot to full pot to check/raise
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05-14-2009 #9
Thank you. I like the idea of 4x bb +1bb for every limper. I hace tried this and it works great.
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