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Old 05-01-2005, 05:31 PM
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Default Ugly hand. . how should I have played?

I hate my play on this hand. I guess I should have at least bet my pf bet on the flop, but frankly, the QQ scared me off my hand. By the time the turn came, I figured I was beat and wanted out cheap. I have no idea what the min bet on the turn meant, or if Button was trying to steal on the river.

I just can't figure out what the guy was chasing on the flop if he didn't have a made hand. . maybe JT, or J9?

How should I have played this? Bet more on the flop? Fold the turn? Call the river?


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BB (t2160)
Hero (t1690)
MP (t3250)
CO (t1795)
Button (t2545)
SB (t3560)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to t160, 2 folds, Button calls t160, 1 fold, BB calls t120.

Flop: (t500) , , (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, Button calls t120, BB folds.

Turn: (t740) (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t40, Hero calls t40.

River: (t820) (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t820, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1640

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Outcome: Button wins t1640.
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Personally, a bet on the flop with that board would indicate to me that the person probably didn't hold a queen. there's no flush draw...with the preflop raise there's likely not a straight draw, and if there is its a gutshot anyhow. I'd expect a flop check/call or check/raise from someone holding a queen rather than an outright bet.

As it stands, a bet of 120 into a pot of 500 smells like weakness to me, if I was leading at this pot, I'd have gone around 300-350ish and shut it down the moment anyone calls/raises. I'm not so sure a check isn't in order anyhow...you didn't hit the flop and there's two other players in who called a raise, even if there's no queen out one/both could be holding pocket pairs. A check could easily get a free card here and give yuo a chance to get away with the cheapest possible investment.
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Old 05-01-2005, 07:38 PM
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you played this hand horribly

no need for 160 pf just 3x it to 120

either make a real bet on the flop or check/fold. and i dont like trying to bluff 2 people especially with someone behind you!

yikes...
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horribly is bit of an overstatement.

pre-flop raise is fine, well within the normal range.

the flop is horrible for you, you either bet to take it down now or check/fold. if an ace or a king hits it doesn't help your cause much and will probably bust you. your bet looks like a value bet, way too small, you either have to risk a pot sized bet and that no one will call it or cut your losses now and check/fold.

Check/fold is the best option here, you missed, move on to the next hand.
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