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04-26-2005, 08:30 AM
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Odds question... # of players at table.
Hey guys, was wondering if anyone knows what the difference in odds would be between a 6 player table compared to a 10 or 11 or even 12 person table. Are you odds the exact same for hitting flush, straight, boat? For example... normally your odds of hitting your flush when you have 4 to the flush after the flop is about 36%. Would that number change if there were say 11 or 12 people at one table? Or does the number of unseen cards remain the same so the odds would stay the same? Thanks!
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04-26-2005, 08:44 AM
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the odds of making a hand stay the same, but the odds that you have the best hand are higher
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04-26-2005, 09:21 AM
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Where are you playing that has 12 people at a table? Do these exist?
The odds for making a hand stay the same because you still have the same info...you know what 5 out of the 52 cards are after the flop. You still have 47 cards available to make your hand.
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04-26-2005, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Btownjay
Hey guys, was wondering if anyone knows what the difference in odds would be between a 6 player table compared to a 10 or 11 or even 12 person table. Are you odds the exact same for hitting flush, straight, boat? For example... normally your odds of hitting your flush when you have 4 to the flush after the flop is about 36%. Would that number change if there were say 11 or 12 people at one table? Or does the number of unseen cards remain the same so the odds would stay the same? Thanks!
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The odds to hit your hand are based on the number of cards in the deck, not the number of players at the table. Since there are the same number of "unknown" cards remaining, your odds of filling when you flop four-to-a-flush are the same regardless of the number of players at the table.
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Originally Posted by Holla575
...but the odds that you have the best hand are higher
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Explain please.
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04-26-2005, 09:41 AM
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Kliph... I'm not, lol... it was just to over exagerate my example. 6 players vs. 12.
Holla... I'm not understanding either. What would the difference be if i hit my hand?
Thanks guys!
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04-26-2005, 10:44 AM
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I think Holla is saying that with less people you have a better chance of having the best hand, since you are up against 5 other players rather than 11. I don't know though.
New avatar btw. 
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04-26-2005, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HOLLA575
....but the odds that you have the best hand are higher
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Explain please.
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Look at it this way - you are in a family pot at a 10-seat table with a pair of aces, but there are three hearts on the board. Are you going to bet that hard assuming you have the best hand? Now you're playing heads up in the same situtation - are you going to play that the same way?
The fewer people you are up against, the better chance your hand will hold up. The more people, the better the chance that someone has you beat.
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04-26-2005, 01:03 PM
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I totally understand and agree Girevik.
But since the initial question was how do the odds change going from a 6-person table to a table with 12 people, I took Holla's response to mean that he felt the odds of your flush being the best hand is better at a table of 11-12 people compared to a table of 6 people. That's why I was asking him to clarify/explain his remark.
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04-26-2005, 09:58 PM
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Yeah, I played at a 12 handed game on sunday, the wait list was too long, and there were still 3 toutnry tables going, so the floor decided to put the players at existing tables of their limit until the tourny tables broke so they could spread the new cash games. The floor didnt want the people leaving. After the tourny broke, the extra 2 players were removed from each table. And our tournies are all 12 handed to fit in as many poeple as possible, usually have about 10-12 tables.
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04-27-2005, 05:23 AM
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Hey Dude,
I must admit I am not a great expert in playing online poker, yet in Math I do understand. Or at least I think I do... Just take the odds for a 6 poker tabke, multiply iy by 6, and divide by the number of players in the new table. So 36 becomes 36*6/11 ~ 20%. odd, off course, are lower as the number of poker players rises. I once saw a good calculator in a poker site, it was poker online or party poker. Enjoy your calculations!
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