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    Default Stats for the first 6k hands





    These are my stats at OnGame 10NL 5max and PokerStars 10NL 6max.
    I know that's a small sample, but i'm going to move to 25NL real soon (have like 35 buyins for 25), and i just want to ask about the gap between VPIP and PF, is it ok for microstakes or i should probably tighten up, or raise pf more?
    Is there any difference whatsoever between NL10 and NL25 or can I just overlook the stats and play the same way, because i feel fine at 10NL?
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    the stats posted are good, I'd slightly tweak them by limping a bit less (like you predicted) and maybe even shoot to get the ATSB% up closer to 30%. Nice winrate.

    More importantly though, show/examine your positional stats. Most NL10 players are careless about position, but it'll be more and more important as you continue to move up.

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    UPD: positional stats added. i think i complete from sb way too much.

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    I would say that you're SB play needs major tweaking, and you're limping in from 2nd and 1st a little too much, other than that it looks pretty solid.
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    Looks very good. complete to 10k then move to NL25 imo.

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    You need to get the pfr and vpip closer together, which basically means stop limping so much, if you play the hand raise it. Att steal is ok but getting it to 30+ (ie. raising CO/BTN alot lighter) would be sweet at that level.
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    raise much more, you are probably limping behind in spots where you should iso-raise

    when you see money in the pot, attack it

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    you're a nit

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    You need to tighten right up from the SB. You are playing position pretty well, then limping/calling a tonne of hands from the worst position in poker. Avoid playing SB even if it's limped to you, without a decent hand.

    Raise a bit more, but for NL10 it doesn't really matter, it's more of an issue once you get to NL25.

    The jump from NL10 to NL25 is probably the biggest jump in micros. You start to get grinders, and still plenty of donks, but in general, it's harder to find complete idiots handing you their money.

    If you want to try to make the jump, I'd suggest trying a couple of things before moving up. This is not an optimal strategy, it's a way of thnking about poker in a different way to what you do now. Start raising most hands on the CO or Button. You want stats of around 30/27 overall, just avoid limping all together and only call occasionally to mix things up. Beat up severely on players to your right (who you have position on post flop) by raising their limps and 3 betting their bets, and cbet a lot of flops. Don't take it too far after that if you are getting resistance, but you'll quickly learn to get a feel for when to continue betting and when to shut down. Learn to read which opponents are playing back, and which ones are waiting for a big hand. As I said this isn't optimal strategy an any micro level, but it's a great way to learn post flop values, and it's a lot of fun too.
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    remember dont strive to acheive some magical stats, find a style that works for you and your stats will be a reflection of that

    having said you are def limping too much, make sure you never open limp first, then follow squeezeys advice and iso raise more from lp and you'll be surprised how many folds you get.

    also your stats will vary a lot depending on the tables you play at and how you adjust, mine go anywhere from 16/12 to 24/20 depending on the table.

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