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04-16-2005, 03:11 PM
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change my title babo
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Just a check up? How's my play w/ top 2
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter
CO (t1925)
Button (t3175)
SB (t2620)
Hero (t2975)
UTG (t1430)
MP (t1375)
Preflop: Hero is BB with  ,  .
2 folds, CO calls t100, Button calls t100, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: (t400)  ,  , (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, CO folds, Button calls t300, SB folds.
Turn: (t1000) (2 players)
Hero bets t650, Button calls t650.
River: (t2300) (2 players)
Hero: checks....
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04-16-2005, 03:19 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Well, not sure but I think i would have bet more than the pot on the turn to really cut the odds.
This pot size bet he called on the flop really looks like a draw or slow play.
the worst part is that this Ad complete all 4 draws... AA, AK, FD and SD...
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04-16-2005, 03:44 PM
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everything seems alright just now he knows you were scared of that river so whether or not he has anything which he probably does if he was in for a straight or flush draw which is what it looks like....he can probably get away with making a big bluff at the pot. Its hard to say what i would have done different..did you get any type of read on this guy or how he played normally...what kind of hands he raised with ect..? But i guess a bigger bet on the flop might have scared away a chaser but he was the chip lead so who knows depending on what kind of player he is.
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04-16-2005, 04:11 PM
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i think you shoulda raised more after the flop to protect the value of your hand from the straight draw or flush, but i don't think this guy would slowplay kk preflop or ak or aq, a call pf with 1010 pf is possible,"unlikely though". Also theres a chance he may have just called 44 preflop and slowplayed it.I think hes on a flush draw or slowplayed a set of 4's. Thats my best guess.
The check on the river i think was too conservative,, it put you in a position where you were showing weakness and making it hard to call a raise. If i was in that situation i woulda bet at least 300 more on the river. enough to look confident, but not to show weakness. If he did make the flush, a reraise would probabley be in order, but a call of fold by him would be good in this situation. (theres no such thing as a loose raise)
Did he rasie you on the river after your check?
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04-16-2005, 05:11 PM
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change my title babo
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there's no such thing as a loose raise? Wtf isn't any raise with a negative expected value a loose raise?
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04-16-2005, 06:12 PM
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Stu Ungar
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that had to be the worst river card you couldve possibly seen 
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04-16-2005, 09:41 PM
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Finsh your beer, drink 3 more and push all-in Check raise on the river.
seriously, you need to totally shut him out on the turn, you figure him for the flush so dont let him draw... over bet the pot. like 1k-1.2k bet here. Chances odf a set are seriously reduced since half the cards on the board you have covered.
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04-17-2005, 01:20 AM
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Would he have folded if you really layed into him with a big bet bonch? It would have been nice to see a big bet to thin it out some...
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04-17-2005, 03:57 AM
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I think a small defensive bet on the river might avoid the bluff if he has nothing and present the opportunity to fold to a big reraise if you feel he has the goods.
Hard to see what he could have that hasn't hit though.
I like the flop bet, the turn could have been more aggressive I guess, though it was extremely unfortunate that the Ad hit.
Horrible river, get out as cheaply as possible.
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04-17-2005, 09:49 AM
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change my title babo
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That's what my main question was. Check here and call a small bet of try a blocking bet. I think I made a mistake on the river. I'm comfortable with my turn play though, he doesn't have sufficient odds to call.
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