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    Default Probably a stupid question.

    Ok....


    This last weekend when PFO was down I went on a 2.5k downswing. I decided to cool my jets for awhile and play some NL50. Not so much to retune my game as after reviewing my HH's, I didn't really see any real troubles with my play but as to cool my jets before a total poker playing breakdown occured. Playing 40 hrs over the weekend and playing some live at the casino I got my roll back to where it was before the downswing.

    During this time I noticed that I didn't lose one buy in at NL50, but through playing very patient and throughough play only went up at that particulaur stake. Now I'm not so great at multi tabling, I mean I play about 60 percent for income and 40 for the excitement of the game, thats mostly the reason I like to play higher limits as it catches my interest more than the micros.

    Before this downswing I did very well playing nl400. Losing the occasional buy in to bad beats.

    What my question is. Do I stay playing NL50 and work on my multi tabling or do I go back to NL400 now that my roll is healthy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coleman View Post
    During this time I noticed that I didn't lose one buy in at NL50, but through running well only went up at that particulaur stake.
    fyp

    If you think you're playing well enough, play the higher stakes, your hourly from crushing 50nl won't compare to narrowly beating 400nl.
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    It wouldnt hurt to spend some time getting used to multitabling though since you seem to play quite a bit online. Playing 2 or 3 tables of NL400 would be a huge boost to profits.
    Lots of good rakeback options at http://www.rakeguard.com/?raf=KRE8R

    KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.

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    is Ub really this soft?

    Do you play HU/6max or full rign?
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    He plays 6-max.

    UB is pretty soft but it's not worth depositing on. Crappy software and worse support.

    If you can clear a bonus quickly it's probably worth you sticking a grand on there for the 111% bonus, Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJPerry View Post
    He plays 6-max.

    UB is pretty soft but it's not worth depositing on. Crappy software and worse support.

    If you can clear a bonus quickly it's probably worth you sticking a grand on there for the 111% bonus, Dave.
    Actually they have good rakeback and the software has improved recently. As far as player quality I dont know.
    Lots of good rakeback options at http://www.rakeguard.com/?raf=KRE8R

    KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.

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    Default A variation.

    I play 6max of course. Alot of the time its just players (nl400) with about 30 to 50 bucks trying to turning nothing into something. Stealing pots is almost as easy as making love with MJperrys mom.

    I dont know why people say their software is so bad, I have skins from TiltBuster.com to improve the look but as far as speed goes its the fastest site ive been on besides cake. There is no lag like you'll find on FTP or Stars.

    Id say its definately worth depositing there.

    1. Rake back is good.

    2. Bad beat jackpot is always cool.

    3. They treat there VIP's very well.

    4. Withdraw's via Moneygram take about 24 hrs, sometimes not even, and only have a fee of 25 dollars. They also have BankWire, which takes about 5 days and have a 50 dollar fee. Numerous other options.

    5. They actually have a phone number unlike FTP. Not to sure about stars.

    6. They actually have deposit bonsuses unlike Stars.

    All these reasons I still don't know why people drop money on stars or FTP without support phone numbers and it takes 5 days to get an email back for anything including withdrawls. (because they think its cool?)

    The play is soft but sometimes it comes back to haunt you, and the highest I played was nl400 so I can't really say for anything above that, but know a few guys that play NL5000 that I could refer you to..

    @Wota, you wouldnt have to deposit, I could send you what I have left on ub, which is about 1k and you could WU me the money? Just a thought. I give up online.

    Went to the casino tonight and won around 700 playing NL400.

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    Software is actually not too bad, I quite like it. Put it this way it kicks the shit out of Ongame software.

    Bad beat jackpot is gay at the low stakes cos the contribution wipes out your rakeback, but at 400nl or something it's not going to be as bad and I think there are more non-jackpot tables.

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    Even at 400 the bad-beat jackpot has a pretty huge cost. Its the main reason I avoid UB.

    OP the variance at NL50 (measured in buyins) will be much smaller cause their super weak tight. Its up to you if that worth the reduction in winrate. You could also try Nl200 or 100 as a happy middle ground.

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    Also if you think -2.5K is a big downswing at NL400 then I'm guessing you don't play a lot of hands. I wouldn't even call that a downswing, thats like 1 bad day for most regulars. If you play a couple hundred thousand hands the odds are high that you'll have a 5-10k downswing at some point so if your not ready for that of variance then sticking at a lower limit might be a good idea.

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