I've been playing a bit recently and probably need some advice as to playable preflop hands. I've got some examples, some real, some made-up:
So we're 5-handed PLO25, more or less full stacked. Don't really have any reads on anyone as such, but they limp-call alot and are generally bad from what we've seen. How should we usually play the following hands?
1. AKTx off-suit OTB when there's a pot raise from MP?
2. KJTx off in the BB family limped pot? How will this change if the KT is suited?
3. As8s89 UTG?
4. T865o OTB 3handed?
5. QsTs97s, OTB 2 limpers
There will probably be more of these and it would be cool if others could ask some similar questions. Also would be cool if anyone knows of a PLO short-handed hand chart or something!
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Thread: PLO - Preflop play, shorthanded
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04-06-2008 #1
PLO - Preflop play, shorthanded
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04-06-2008 #2
Easy fold, suited Ace you can call. Even without the raise you fold this all day long.1. AKTx off-suit OTB when there's a pot raise from MP?
fold as fast as lightning, even if it's it suited2. KJTx off in the BB family limped pot? How will this change if the KT is suited?
Meh, I'll limp with this if everyone is limping, or raise it if noone re-raises and there is a lot of folding on the flop3. As8s89 UTG?
GARBAGE, you need 679T, the 5T don't work together4. T865o OTB 3handed?
more garbage, the Q7 don't work. You need 7-J, 8-Q, 9-K, T-A5. QsTs97s, OTB 2 limpersRead my musings on poker and life at Online Poker Examiner, Poker Examiner, PokerNewsBoy.com, and My Poker Blog
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04-06-2008 #3
so AKTx is a fold OTB 5 handed even with no raise? wow, I'm bad.
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04-06-2008 #4
OK a more general one. We're 5-handed in the bb and it limps around to us. What's our raising range?
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04-06-2008 #5
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04-06-2008 #6
Id raise AKTx on button with 1 limp all day long.
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04-06-2008 #7
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04-16-2008 #8
I'm not gonna try and answer since Steve-O has been here but re: #1 - that's an easy fold.
I think it was Ciaffone who said 'if there's something even slightly bad about your hand don't play it in a raised pot'. He was talking about being OOP but I think AKTx is marginal enough (especially with the x) to fold here.
In a limped pot I'd probably call in position, especially if the AT or Ax were suited.
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04-16-2008 #9
AKTx is trash, if it's AsKTx it's a different story.
you're going to hate hitting two pair since it will be a draw heavy board, and you might already be behind a set, a lot of people limp with AA and KK. You can only make a big straight draw if JQ drops.
Now change your hand to AKJT and hit two pair, now those rare times when you're behind a set you still have outs. Make it suited and it's the same story. Now, you'll have straight draw if any Q + a Broadway or a 9 drops. When it's suited and you flop a flush and straight draw, even a gutshot you'll like the flop.
PLO is about three things: the nuts, huge draws, and redraws. AKTx offers none of these unless the flop is specifically AAk, AAT, or JQ rainbow.
You'll find in the long run you'll make most of your money from people playing AKTx when you have AKQT or AKKT, AsKsJQ, where you either have them smooooshed, or hit the same hand, but you're freerolling to a better one.Read my musings on poker and life at Online Poker Examiner, Poker Examiner, PokerNewsBoy.com, and My Poker Blog
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04-16-2008 #10
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