2 new classifications

Steve-O · #1 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 07:14 PM

We all know the loose to tight, and the passive to aggressive classifications. I've recently been tinkering with 2, possibly 3, new classification charts.

the loose-tight, passive-aggressive would still be the primary way to classify a player. However I have added 2 new charts as well; DECISION MAKING logical to emotional, and DECEPTION straightforward to deceptive.

Basically, decision making encompasses how they come to their decisions and even touches on their tiltability. Deception is pretty straightforward, how often do they misrepresent their hand and are they difficult to read.

the third I've been tinkering with (possibly in place of decision making) is hand reading. Do they play their cards or do they play the situation.

Thoughts/Ideas???

MJPerry · #2 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 07:16 PM

Decision making, as in differentiating between those players who 'had a feeling' and those who thought mid-pair was good because of the way their opponent played the turn?

Steve-O · #3 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 07:19 PM

sort of. not only that but do they get rattled, hold grudges, etc.

think of the extreme end of logical being a computer, it's decisions are done purely based on math, and making the right play. Think of emotional as a blind rage where you do something you normally wouldn't. I mean, at some point we all make strange plays we know we shouldn't based on some type of emotion. It's the frequency and the ease with which you get pushed to that point I'm talking about.

FaDi · #4 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve-O

We all know the loose to tight, and the passive to aggressive classifications. I've recently been tinkering with 2, possibly 3, new classification charts.

the loose-tight, passive-aggressive would still be the primary way to classify a player. However I have added 2 new charts as well; DECISION MAKING logical to emotional, and DECEPTION straightforward to deceptive.

Basically, decision making encompasses how they come to their decisions and even touches on their tiltability. Deception is pretty straightforward, how often do they misrepresent their hand and are they difficult to read.

the third I've been tinkering with (possibly in place of decision making) is hand reading. Do they play their cards or do they play the situation.

Thoughts/Ideas???

I like your ideas but in a way to me the main two you listed, in my opinion, or the way i've been thinking of poker each fall under loose-tight and passive aggressive with each incorporating one more then the other. For example I perceive the LAG player to be more emotional in his decision making, the opposite of a TAG player who I perceive to be more logical and straightforward the majority of the time. Get what i'm saying?

MJPerry · #5 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 07:23 PM

Like a person 4-betting light just because they're pissed off with the 3-bettor?

KRE8R · #6 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 07:27 PM

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Deception is pretty straightforward, how often do they misrepresent their hand and are they difficult to read.

Wouldnt this technically just fall under multilevel thinking? Everyone seems to think on multiple levels at any given time. One thing I noticed however is that certain levels of players tend to be "sold" to certain hands. Like whenever they make the flush they will get allin no matter what the action is or the board reads.

Steve-O · #7 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 07:31 PM

I don't think it's multi-level thinking. I'm thinking more along the lines of how often do they check-raise, semi-bluff, and also how hard are they to put on a hand. Since some people semi-bluff every draw it is easy to put them on a hand, hence they are straightforward.

Multi-level thinking is more along the lines of hand rading not misrepresentation, imo.

Steve-O · #8 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 07:32 PM

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Like a person 4-betting light just because they're pissed off with the 3-bettor?

yes. Like I said do they get heated and how fast does it happen.

MJPerry · #9 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 07:34 PM

Yeah, that's a good thing to watch out for.

I seem to get looked up and 3-bet a lot more once I've been a cock at the table.

Steve-O · #10 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 07:35 PM

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I like your ideas but in a way to me the main two you listed, in my opinion, or the way i've been thinking of poker each fall under loose-tight and passive aggressive with each incorporating one more then the other. For example I perceive the LAG player to be more emotional in his decision making, the opposite of a TAG player who I perceive to be more logical and straightforward the majority of the time. Get what i'm saying?

I just find those classifications to generalized. I don't even use loose-tight post flop, I call it sticktoitiveness. to me, at its core loose-tight means how many hands do they play.