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  1. 03-04-2008 #1
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    I've got a serious question (since a few days ago my bankroll exceeded $1000 and now i'm a serious player ).
    It's a common occurrence that i see the expression "to outplay postflop" at 2+2 and other boards. so what exactly does that mean? to put the opponent on hand and get the maximum value of it, if you think you're ahead & avoid losing much in case you're behind? or something more?
    And to your mind, what are the main postflop skills besides hand reading?

    p.s. sorry for possible mistakes
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    Outplaying your opponent in my opinion is making them make mistakes combined with being able to accurately estimate their range and play optimally against that. This could involve bluffing because you know they are weak or checking to induce a bluff when you have the goods among other scenarios.

    Some main post flop skills:
    Continuation betting at the right time
    Double barrelling at the right time
    Bet sizing
    Extracting value
    Adjusments for number of players and position
    Having a plan before you start committing yourself to the pot


    This list can go on and on really but there's some ideas
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    Pretty much what jh said.

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    in a nutshell i suppose you could define "outplaying" someone postflop as making them play differently than they would if they could see your cards.

    whether that means them bluffing into you when you have monsters, calling down with worse hands without proper odds, folding the best hand etc. links in to what's been said above.

    i would say one of the most important things is knowing what you are going to do later on in the hand. before you make a bet you should know how you'll react when called/raised and how the cards on the next street will alter your line. if you bet and then say "i have no idea what to do" when they raise then maybe you shouldn't be betting in the first place.
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    poker is a game of mistakes

    outplaying your opponent is inducing them to make mistakes, and not making mistakes of your own (your opponent will give you plenty of opportunities to make a mistake)

    one of the MOST IMPORTANT aspects of outplaying your opponent that jh missed would be controlling the size of the pot.

    google "pot control" or search it on 2p2, its very important
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    poker is a game of mistakes

    outplaying your opponent is inducing them to make mistakes, and not making mistakes of your own (your opponent will give you plenty of opportunities to make a mistake)

    one of the MOST IMPORTANT aspects of outplaying your opponent that jh missed would be controlling the size of the pot.

    google "pot control" or search it on 2p2, its very important

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    If you get them to fold the best hand, you can also say you out-played them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinguaq View Post
    If you get them to fold the best hand, you can also say you out-played them
    Think about the Gold v Brunson 9 high flush v T high flush on HSP
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharding666 View Post
    Think about the Gold v Brunson 9 high flush v T high flush on HSP
    What season (episode) was that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scanner View Post
    What season (episode) was that?
    I think it was the latest season (4?)

    No idea what episode sorry. Basically Gold over reps his hand thinking he has the goods when he is behind. Doyle senses Gold thinks he has an absolute monster and so folds the higher flush.

    Later Gold calls it the best bluff ever
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