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Old 01-04-2008, 01:11 AM
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FullTiltPoker Game #4731555273: Table Oval (heads up) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:13:16 ET - 2008/01/04
Seat 1: Tony Rage ($60.35)
Seat 2: water boat ($90)
water boat posts the small blind of $0.25
Tony Rage posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to water boat [Jd Ks]
water boat raises to $1.50
Tony Rage raises to $5.25
water boat raises to $15.75
Tony Rage has 15 seconds left to act
Tony Rage has requested TIME
Tony Rage raises to $60.35, and is all in
water boat has 15 seconds left to act
water boat has requested TIME



It is $44.60 to call 75$ already in the pot

odds = 75:45 = 15:9 = 5:3

I need to win 3/8 times to be 0EV

or

.375%


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1,232,858,880 games 0.005 secs 246,571,776,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.204% 31.86% 00.35% 392767884 4260132.00 { KJo }
Hand 1: 67.796% 67.45% 00.35% 831570732 4260132.00 { TT+, AQs+, ATs, T6s, AQo+ }


Stove says that range is 67/32

ATs and T6s are two bluffs, while all other hands are value shoves.

Moral of Story, I sucked out hard considering flop was 3 blanks.
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:44 AM
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Moral of the story:

4bet bluffs and monsters
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:15 AM
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Moral of the story:

4bet bluffs and monsters
I am not sure that is relevant.
Against the range Gder gave you would have about the same equity with 45s and higher equity with 22 than he had here with KJo.
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:52 AM
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I am not sure that is relevant.
Against the range Gder gave you would have about the same equity with 45s and higher equity with 22 than he had here with KJo.
That's not my point.
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Pot odds were invented only to justify bad calls.
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Forget the pot odds, why would you get yourself in that situation in the first place?

Unless the guy that reraised you was a complete bluffer/extremely loose player, what made you reraise a reraise with K,J ?
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Forget the pot odds, why would you get yourself in that situation in the first place?

Unless the guy that reraised you was a complete bluffer/extremely loose player, what made you reraise a reraise with K,J ?
4bet bluff... if you think he's 3betting light it's rather common.

You never get action when you 4bet AA/KK preflop right? So why should a bluff be any different.
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:41 AM
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I think KJ plays too well HU IP to turn in to a bluff
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