Ok, lets say that we have a multitabling(6-8) regular, who is probably one of the best at the stakes he plays. He plays 25/22/5 and he basically tries to exploit all the weak tight players around. He has a pretty big 3betting range that consists of TT+,AT+,KQ probably regardless of the originally raiser's position. He could 3bet with some SCs or mid/small pairs also, but i'm not so sure about it so lets leave it out for now.

What is our strategy against this type of player?

1)I think 4bet/shoving with QQ+,AK is pretty standard. Can we 4bet with anything else as well?
2)With what hands can we call:
a) in position
b) OOP.
given that postflop he plays any top pair type hand like the nuts(which is perfectly fine for him in general, as he gets people to play back at him with some ridiculus hands), plus he is able to fire flop and turn with any decent draw and bluff/shove/raise the river when he misses.


Hope this is not so dumb, i'd like to hear your opinions...

the answer to all of these is it depends.

like what?

stacks
your image
number of people in hand
..

i am not talking about a specific situation, and i thought that a standard aproach could be made assuming a 6max game, 100bb stacks, me playing a standard 16/13 ~ 18/15 or something like that.

Obviously the question has to do more with preflop ranges than postflop play(the money goes in very light postflop, so there's not much to say)...I mean if i just continue my normal game without any asjustments against a player like this, he will run me over . For example, versus an average player that doesnt get out of line, i open AJ from MP, i get 3bet and fold. I open SCs from late position, i get 3bet and fold. Well, not 100% of the time, but we are talking about the standard play. But if you get 3bet by the same guy all day and 4-5 times in a row, i guess you have to do something. What i'm saying is how much can i loosen up my calling/4betting range so that i dont keep folding the best hand and just wait for big hands to play back at him?


I dont think this is sooooo general of a situation, but if you think so, whatever....

> He has a pretty big 3betting range that consists of TT+,AT+,KQ

That's like top 9% of the hands.

Yeah if your read is good, you can 4bet with hands that is better than top 50% of this list (QQ+, AK, AQ), and fold anything worse. More than half of the time you are ahead.

Originally Posted by Gdm

i am not talking about a specific situation, and i thought that a standard aproach could be made

But see, you are thinking about poker in the wrong way. You cannot beat a very good very aggressive player thinking this way. He is going to be thinking ahead of you, hell, behind you, around you, etc. The player you are trying to beat is going to consider on every street every bit of information that is available to him. Not only will he consider this information, but he will consider how YOU consider this information. Every street, every time he is faced with a decision he will analyze all of the things that his decision "depends" on. The answer to your question is what the aggressive player is asking himself every time he has to act.

poker is situational. if any of us could give you a good answer to this question, there wouldn't be any need for poker forums, books, or videos.

the best way to go about this is whenever you feel you had a tough decision against the good lag player, post the hand either here or on 2p2 and learn what you did wrong. repeat this process many many many many many times and slowly but surely you get a better idea of what to do.

Just get a superuser account, life will be much easier