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    Default Back to $100NL and the full stacked game

    Ok, been off for a while. Built my BR up to $9k half stacking at $200NL. Lost $4000 trying to half stack at $400NL. Had a holiday and spent half my BR (good holiday). Then returned to poker with $2000.

    I gave $200NL half stacked a shot but got burned a lot. So i'm back to $100NL to work on my full stacked game. Here are my stats for the week. Comments please.

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    Very nice winrate indeed. Is this fullring or 6max?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidab157 View Post
    Very nice winrate indeed. Is this fullring or 6max?
    Neither!

    Its 5 max. Full stacked at $100NL and half stacked at $200NL.

    If I stacked someone I would stay at the table. Win rate is so large because I had several pots where i was 200BB deep with an opponent and got them to put their whole 200BB stack in with the worst hand. Guys at $100NL seem to have little concept of stack depth.
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    Your aggression is quite low considering your vpip/pfr, are you generally less aggro post-flop than most or is that just the small sample?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidab157 View Post
    Your aggression is quite low considering your vpip/pfr, are you generally less aggro post-flop than most or is that just the small sample?
    Aggression Factor is really a very ominous stat. If you are a player who never calls and always raises your AF will be very high. If you never raise and always call, even if you lead a lot it will be low.

    If like me you read hands very well and control pots your AF will not be very high at all. However I will get the money in when I have the best of it. I find that trying to steam roll people off pots at $100NL is -ev. I prefer to play a lot of pots, make hands and get paid when I do. Its more +ev in the long run.
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    20bb/100!!! Naice.

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    Nice work.

    You say you control pots, so do you still cbet quite a lot, or do you like to mix it up a lot at the flop?

    Also do you find you are forcing players off their normal game a bit playing looser, or do players at that level stick by their tight game no matter what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb944 View Post
    Nice work.

    You say you control pots, so do you still cbet quite a lot, or do you like to mix it up a lot at the flop?

    Also do you find you are forcing players off their normal game a bit playing looser, or do players at that level stick by their tight game no matter what?
    I c bet quite a lot but tend to mix this up depending on the opponents in the pot and flop texture. I also find the most overused tactic at $100NL is floating the flop and trying to take pots away on the turn. therefore I fire twice against opponents with VPIP above say 26 who are in my opinion bad players.

    I would say the regulars (the good ones) are hard to sway from their usual game. However I mainly target loose non regulars with either high VPIP and PFR or high VPIP to PFR ratio. I only try play on tables that have at least 45% players to the flop. Then you are guaranteed at least 2 donkeys. They are the ones who generally pay you off with the least amount of setting up. The regulars usually take big hand vs big hand.
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    I'm not keen on your VPIP/PFR ratio but you seem to be happy playing lots of cheap pots. I think it's more profitable to be playing closer to 25/21 than 25/16 though.

    Your folded BB to steal % is awfully low, care to explain why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharding666 View Post
    I'm not keen on your VPIP/PFR ratio but you seem to be happy playing lots of cheap pots. I think it's more profitable to be playing closer to 25/21 than 25/16 though.

    Your folded BB to steal % is awfully low, care to explain why?
    I'm not sure that 66% is really that small. $100NL is full of very poor post flop players. I find that taking pots against these guys, 3 betting them with wide ranges and generally pushing them around a lot with med strength hands, big draws and big hands makes them tilt. This also tends to make them give you all their chips.

    I'm actually trying to get my VPIP to be more like 30% with a 20-25% PFR but its work in progress. I think I will more successfully achieve this at $200NL as its too tempting to take flops against poor players at $100NL.
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