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  1. #1
    Mike McDermott gder03's Avatar
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    Default Good way to lose to KT high

    This is what you do:

    Full Tilt Poker Game #3693820769: Table Burt (deep 6) - $0.15/$0.30 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:17:55 ET - 2007/09/28
    Seat 1: water boat ($66)
    Seat 2: avrahaam ($32.95)
    Seat 3: CLOUDKICK ($44.15)
    Seat 4: CHIPPBURGLAR ($28.35)
    Seat 5: bubbajin8546 ($29.70)
    Seat 6: Batya ($59.15)
    avrahaam has 5 seconds left to act
    avrahaam posts the small blind of $0.15
    CLOUDKICK posts the big blind of $0.30
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to water boat [8s 9h]
    CHIPPBURGLAR folds
    bubbajin8546 folds
    Batya folds
    CHIPPBURGLAR stands up
    water boat raises to $1.05
    avrahaam calls $0.90
    CLOUDKICK has 15 seconds left to act
    CLOUDKICK folds
    *** FLOP *** [7c 6s 2s]
    avrahaam has 15 seconds left to act
    avrahaam bets $2.40
    water boat has 15 seconds left to act
    water boat raises to $7.80
    avrahaam has 15 seconds left to act
    avrahaam raises to $25.80
    AlexanderSt sits down
    AlexanderSt adds $30
    water boat raises to $64.95, and is all in
    avrahaam calls $6.10, and is all in
    water boat shows [8s 9h]
    avrahaam shows [Ts 9d]
    Uncalled bet of $33.05 returned to water boat
    *** TURN *** [7c 6s 2s] [Kc]
    *** RIVER *** [7c 6s 2s Kc] [4c]
    water boat shows King Nine high
    avrahaam shows King Ten high
    avrahaam wins the pot ($63.20) with King Ten high
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $66.20 | Rake $3
    Board: [7c 6s 2s Kc 4c]
    Seat 1: water boat (button) showed [8s 9h] and lost with King Nine high
    Seat 2: avrahaam (small blind) showed [Ts 9d] and won ($63.20) with King Ten high
    Seat 3: CLOUDKICK (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: CHIPPBURGLAR didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: bubbajin8546 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: Batya didn't bet (folded)
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    > avrahaam raises to $25.80
    > water boat raises to $64.95, and is all in
    > avrahaam calls $6.10, and is all in

    I don't get it, man. Why do you re-raise him when he is sure to call even with pocket deuce? Your chance to make a straight is only about 1/4.

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    What a thoroughly silly hand.

    Poo to you sir. Poo to you with knobs on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maltz View Post
    > avrahaam raises to $25.80
    > water boat raises to $64.95, and is all in
    > avrahaam calls $6.10, and is all in

    I don't get it, man. Why do you re-raise him when he is sure to call even with pocket deuce? Your chance to make a straight is only about 1/4.

    i only raise to like 31$, the rest is returned to me.

    Lets see if my play makes sense:

    there is about 38.6$ in the pot after his 25.8$ raise. meaning its about 17$ for me to call for a 38.6 pot. thats like 2.2:1. I think i only need to win 31% of time for it to be a +EV call.

    After stoving it you can see, vs a standard (imo AK and J7 is a bit loose, but I think it is realistic, plus i didnt count ant top pair w/ lesser kiker than J, so I think that makes up for it) range

    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    1,805,760 games 0.047 secs 38,420,425 games/sec

    Board: 7c 6s 2s
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 57.357% 54.51% 02.85% 984330 51393.00 { 66+, 22, AKs, A7s, K7s, Q7s, J7s, 98s, 76s, 72s, 62s, 54s, AKo, A7o, K7o, Q7o, 98o, 76o, 72o, 62o, 54o }
    Hand 1: 42.643% 39.80% 02.85% 718644 51393.00 { 98o }

    I'm getting more than enough on my money (unless i made a miscalculation in PS).

    Also, I 3bet him on flop b/c I felt he was b.sing me, I rarely 3 bet draws vs unknowns unless we are short stacked.
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    All right I just used odds calculator to figure out your odds on flop.

    You: 26.06%
    Opponent: 73.03%

    This is about the same when you just count the straight outs as outs.

    Right you didn't know what he had at the time, but you can't always count over cards as outs (in this case, one of your over card won't give you the win).

    So in order for your plan to work, to win a 38.6$ pot, you should invest at most $21. You invested <$30... If you win it would be a bad beat, really.

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    you dont really understand what you are talking about.

    Good thing is i got a pot back;

    Full Tilt Poker Game #3699358081: Table Pic (deep 6) - $0.15/$0.30 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:15:39 ET - 2007/09/28
    Seat 1: Pestilence28 ($88.35)
    Seat 2: Lcubano ($25)
    Seat 3: Migus ($31.30)
    Seat 4: steveraytn ($39.30)
    Seat 5: teh_lag ($35.20)
    Seat 6: water boat ($59.70)
    Migus posts the small blind of $0.15
    steveraytn posts the big blind of $0.30
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to water boat [Ad 9c]
    teh_lag has 15 seconds left to act
    teh_lag calls $0.30
    water boat raises to $1.20
    Pestilence28 folds
    Migus folds
    steveraytn calls $0.90
    teh_lag calls $0.90
    *** FLOP *** [Kd Qd 2s]
    steveraytn bets $1.20
    teh_lag folds
    water boat has 15 seconds left to act
    water boat raises to $4.50
    steveraytn calls $3.30
    *** TURN *** [Kd Qd 2s] [4h]
    steveraytn has 15 seconds left to act
    steveraytn checks
    water boat bets $10.80
    steveraytn calls $10.80
    *** RIVER *** [Kd Qd 2s 4h] [4s]
    steveraytn has 15 seconds left to act
    steveraytn checks
    water boat checks
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    water boat shows [Ad 9c] a pair of Fours
    steveraytn mucks
    water boat wins the pot ($32.65) with a pair of Fours
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $34.35 | Rake $1.70
    Board: [Kd Qd 2s 4h 4s]
    Seat 1: Pestilence28 (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: Lcubano is sitting out
    Seat 3: Migus (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: steveraytn (big blind) mucked [9d 5d] - a pair of Fours
    Seat 5: teh_lag folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: water boat showed [Ad 9c] and won ($32.65) with a pair of Fours
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    Quote Originally Posted by gder03 View Post
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