We've all been there, you wake up with kings, the world is a bright and sunny place, you raise just enough to push all but one person off the pot.
Dollar Signs appear in your eyes, you're already spending the money when the flop comes
A-blank-blank rainbow
What are people's thoughts on how to place this when:-
a) you're first to act
b) you're facing a raise
c) you're facing a check
I think in most situations a bet is called for to find out where you are - but if your opponent is playing cagey with AK then you might get a flat call - the turn will invariably be something else irrelevant and NOW what do you do...
I hate this situation - help!!
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09-13-2007 #1Fish Food
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Holding KK when that **** Ace Appears on the Flop
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09-13-2007 #2
a) Cbet
b) Depends on the opponent
c) Bet, or check behind if you're really unsure of the opponent. Would he call preflop with Ax? Would he call with AK, AQ or raise?
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09-13-2007 #3Fish
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In my view
A) cbet
b) depends, don't be afraid to fold
c) cbet
If he calls then it really depends upon the opponent and how you feel about what he has but I would generally check. If he has 88 he might sense weakness and push you off the hand but you can't win them all; if he does have 88 he might think your check is with AK or better yet with trips to try to induce him to bet so you can raise so a check on the turn in my view doesn't at all automatically tell him that you have no A.
I'm no expert (I'm closer to the other end of that spectrum) but this seems reasonable to me and has worked for me overall (whether I really do have trips and have induced him to bet on the turn or whether I have just KK and sometimes am rewarded with check-check).
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09-15-2007 #4
Have no fear. I have a few easy solutions!
Figure out how to represent pocket Aces so he knows you have them without a doubt. Or if he's a tight player, represent a set or even two pair (if you can get away with it).
To avoid getting in this situation in the first place, but still get value out of your Kings, all you have to do is this:
1) Make your opponent put lots of chips in preflop
2) Then make opponent fold (preflop)
See? Poker is easy
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09-15-2007 #5
In person it's probably easier to represent that you have the nuts.
To represent the Aces, bet strong preflop. Then a strong continuation bet. When the Ace flops, you have to keep going headstrong (represent to him that you're aware of the situation, the potential that he has top pair does not worry you). If a second Ace comes on the river/turn, then... it's time to figure out a plan B. lol
If he's watching you, smirk slightly to yourself, act like you're trying to hide being happy and you're not aware he's looking at you. It's a "real" bluff.
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09-15-2007 #6
I hate the situation. I always Cbet and fold a raise (depending on the opponent).
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09-15-2007 #7the two best MTT training sites on the net
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09-15-2007 #8
In a high stakes poker episode I watched last night Phil Laak suggested that whoever manages to win a hand with 72 everyone should pay him $500. Phil Hellmuth (I still hate him) got 72 off suit while another guy got KK. Phil was betting strong throughout and managed to make the guy fold on the river. Note that there was no Ace on the board.
"There is only one sure thing about luck: At some point it will change.", Some random guy on TV
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09-15-2007 #9
1) Cbet but do it properly if you are.
2) Fold or raise if something doesnt add up
3) I like a check (if its HU), might induce a bluff on the turn and it keeps the pot small. Him bluffing is the only way youll make money hereI wanna live till I die. No more. No less.
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09-15-2007 #10the two best MTT training sites on the net
http://www.pokerpwnage.com/?ref=486
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/
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