It happens at all levels, you get people so retarded that it folds round to them on the button and they limp in! What the fuck? It's such a bullshit play, raise or fold mofo!

A possible leak in my game is that I don't punish these guys enough, in fact I'm probably only raising them with a range very similar to my EP raising range.

I always figure that if they are fishy enough to limp then they are going to call the raise and then we are out of position. Of course I can out play these idiots though so I feel I should be raising more.

My question is what range do you raise with when you have persistent open limpers on the button:
a) out of the sb with a loose bb
b) out of the sb with a tight bb
c) out of the bb with the sb completing
d) out of the bb with the sb folding?

Please discuss!

I raise them pretty rarely.
Maybe 88+, KQ, AJ+ or something like that.
As you say they are usually calling a raise, they are calling with any piece of flop so we want to play them with our hands for value.
A hand like 67s is too often going to miss the flop and end up showing down and losing to A high which the guy called our cbet with.

a + b:

Assuming 6max, I'm raising pretty much my UTG range, maybe chucking in a few other hands like ATo/KQo etc. depending on how donkish they are.

c + d:

Probably my MP range. Not too keen on going with SC's for the reasons wota says and I'm liking to play these hands in position for the most part.

EDIT: I'd take out 77 and below from these ranges though.

Yes, sorry I forgot to mention this was meant to be about 6 max.

Feel free to comment on full ring too for those nits that enjoy that game

Originally Posted by jharding666

Yes, sorry I forgot to mention this was meant to be about 6 max.

Feel free to comment on full ring too for those nits that enjoy that game

LOL @ full ring nits. You realise I play more hands at 10 handed games than you do at 6 handed games?

Originally Posted by WotaWaster

LOL @ full ring nits. You realise I play more hands at 10 handed games than you do at 6 handed games?

You realise I pwn you?

jharding challenge him HU4ROLLZ!

That way he can cripple your BR and I will have gained one-upsmanship on you, bahahahaha!

Originally Posted by davidab157

jharding challenge him HU4ROLLZ!

That way he can flop quads after 4 betting T4o OOP PF v your KK and cripple your BR and I will have gained one-upsmanship on you, bahahahaha!

FYP

I actually wouldn't play Jharding HU4Rollz anymore. His roll is too big.

I'd happily pwn him at microstakes of $100NL though

Originally Posted by WotaWaster

I actually wouldn't play Jharding HU4Rollz anymore. His roll is too big.

I'd happily pwn him at microstakes of $100NL though

lol