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    Default Question about playing against super short stacks...

    Here is a hypothetical situation.

    I am on the BB and get dealt . My stack is about 2100 chips and the blinds are at 50/100. There are two limpers and the SB completes. I raise to 300 and everybody folds except the player on the button.

    Before the raise he only had about 600 chips. He for some reason doesn't shove, and has 300 chips going into the flop.

    The flop comes .

    The pot has 800 chips now.

    Although I missed the flop, there is a 1/3 chance that he did too. If he did spike a pair, I am about a 3/1 dog with two overcards.

    Since the pot is laying me a little bit less than 3/1, should I bet out here and put him all in? If he spiked a pair I'm still getting the odds to draw out, not to mention fold equity.

    Or should I check and fold if he pushes all in here?

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    insta raise him all-in. (notice the period at the end of the sentance)
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    Ok, good.

    A very similar situation happened to me earlier in a sng.

    A super short stack called a raise leaving himself with only 3-4x the BB. I held suited big slick (like above) and the flop came something similar to that.

    And as you said I should do and put him all in, he called with J9s and it held up.

    This crippled my stack as the blinds went up to 75/150 giving me only 10x the BB. I eventually busted out as I went on a massive card dead streak after this (great timing)

    The players on the table thought I played badly, thinking I donked off all my chips with AK. I thought I played it right, but I figured I would post it here to see what others thought.
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    There's a number of ways he coulda hit, still he only has $300. Didnt really cripple you, you went from $1800 (after your raise) to $1500. Still 15 big blinds and plenty of time to pwn the table.
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    Well, considering its a single table sng, the blinds went up pretty fast.

    It was only after a couple hands that the blinds shot up to 75/150, leaving me with 10x the BB.

    That was really the problem, the damn blinds.

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    What did the blinds start at, how many chips to start? With his stack and the pf action, he was pushing any 2 and you gotta call. May as well get some fold equity.
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    At the beginning the blinds start at 10/20 and the beginning stacks are 1500.

    He was REALLY low, those were my thoughts exactly when I was playing the hand.

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    Oh yea, and since you were BB, he obviously wasnt. Gambling 1/2 his stack preflop with J9 was extremelly questionable.
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    Well, you know some players in the lower limits.

    Not shoving preflop with a stack that low if you plan to call that is also very questionable.

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    I wanted in include originally, but wasnt sure how to fit it in... two limpers + sb completer, + your BB = pot of 400. By only raising 200 more you give good odds to call.You may have wanted to pop it to 600 at least, or just smooth call hoping for a nice flop. That's assuming people you play with care about silly little things like pot odds.
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