Spewing/General Donkiness on Final Table

MTdemocrat · #1 (**permalink**) 07-16-2007, 01:00 AM

In my quest to become a well rounded poker player, I have been trying my hand at tournaments. I have read Hoh 1 cover-to-cover 2x. i believe I fully understand the basic principles.

I have been playing the 45 and 9 man SNG's on Pokerstars. For the most part in the 9 man;s, I can make the final 4 pretty easy. In fact most of the time I generally am second or third in chips. This is where I run into all of my problems. I start to loosen up my play. While this generally works for quite some time, once players start to fight back I start spewing chips. I either stack off w/ a mediocre hand or I try to make a big move and get caught.

I have stacked off w/ a TPMK (Q9) against TPTK (AQ) when I have raised from the button and got a re-raise from the BB.

In all I think I need some type of guidelines for bubble play. I will be reading Hoh vol. II starting tommorow.

piv · #2 (**permalink**) 07-16-2007, 03:01 AM

http://stage6.divx.com/videos/search:sng

Watch that and learn for sngs. If you get to the final 4 with a ton of chips let yourself time out every hand and let the blinds go up. You shouldn't be raising or taking flops at all, you should entirely be in push/fold mode. This is something HoH doesn't cover at all, and alex's video is insanely concise and informative.

Make another videeeeeoooooo alex... pleeease.

OrionPro · #3 (**permalink**) 07-16-2007, 05:33 AM

Why would you want to read HoH2 for SnG's?

It's really for MTTs and even here it has weaknesses and emphasizes pot odds too much. I don't think it discusses 9-man pushbotting at all. Alex' video or a PXF subscription plus learning/understanding ICM is what you want.

MTdemocrat · #4 (**permalink**) 07-17-2007, 01:08 AM

Well I have stopped spewing when I get near the bubble! Now I can't seem to win a coinflip or domination spot!

It seems that whetehr or not I make the money comes down to a big hand that I lose. Tonight it has been:

1010 vs AJ (AJ wins)

JJ vs 1010 (1010 wins)

KK vs AK (AK wins)

Winning any of those hands would have put me in a good spot to take either 1 or 2 in the SNG.

Variance, what a bitch.

piv · #5 (**permalink**) 07-17-2007, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTdemocrat

Variance, what a bitch.

Now you understand how push/fold and ICM works you get to enjoy the massive swings of sngs.

MTdemocrat · #6 (**permalink**) 07-17-2007, 09:00 AM

SOOOO annoying. You sit and play well, playing good cards/good spots and you get run down by donks.