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    Super Moderator davidab157's Avatar
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    Default A table FULL of maniacs

    I found myself in the situation today, that at a NL50 6max table there was me and 5 complete idiots. These guys were all running about 65/15/1. Now, this is a very profitable situation, well at least I thought so.

    Every time I raised, at least 3 of them would call, and they gave cbets no respect whatsoever. Obviously variance was against me as they managed to suckout on practically everything possible and it took me about 50 hands to win a pot, any pot. The question is, even though these guys are goldmines individually, should I be leaving a table like this as I am almost never getting to HU by the flop, making a TAG game difficult (in a sense) and meaning I have to have the goods every time I bet? 3/4/5 handed, even my big hands don't have huge equity and these guys just did crazy things (I swear they were drunk).

    Should I just leave and find a "normal" table where I can isolate 1 or 2 donkeys and thus really lower my variance? Or should I stop being a pussy and stay at the table?
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    Sounds like some of my live games. I usually leave for a more predictable table and have been critisized for this. However, I play as much or more for fun than money. One tip, don't c-bet unless you have the goods and expect to get paid when you do.
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    Tighten up slightly - E.g. After 2 limps there's no point raising KJo on the button knowing you'll get 4 calls.
    - Never bluff (including cbets)
    - Raise more with big pairs (10bb is realistic against these type of players)
    - See flops with more specualtive hands such as suited connectors in multiway pots
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    Quote Originally Posted by WotaWaster View Post
    Tighten up slightly - E.g. After 2 limps there's no point raising KJo on the button knowing you'll get 4 calls.
    - Never bluff (including cbets)
    - Raise more with big pairs (10bb is realistic against these type of players)
    - See flops with more specualtive hands such as suited connectors in multiway pots
    Yes that's all good stuff. It may be less fun to play in such games because bluffing is part of poker (but not against these calling machines) but it can be quite profitable and to me that's where the most fun is.

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    i actually encountered this same mess today, the whole dam session i couldnt get these donkeys in HU situations. My monster hands have zero equity when FIVE people are entering the flop. and im talking like 6-8bb raises. i ended up slightly down for the session and somewhat disgruntled because i knew these morons wanted to GIVE me their money!

    IMO i think when you are in a game where KK AA is not getting equity going into the flop, the table is -EV. when the whole TABLE is fucking nuts, its a -EV.
    AsuitedKing: justify the call
    EhRa: he hits his set und waited that i hitz something and he dindt play he only goes allin
    EhRa: tahts a big donk ... so ****

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    and i dont think "being a pussy" has anything to do with the fact that you dont want to lose money. lower the variance. it will count in the long run./
    AsuitedKing: justify the call
    EhRa: he hits his set und waited that i hitz something and he dindt play he only goes allin
    EhRa: tahts a big donk ... so ****

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