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About LinkBacksI know how they work, but I am sort of wondering whether continuation betting should happen in all situations.
Lets say, for example, that you raise it up on the BB with pocket tens. You get two callers, on on the button and another from middle position.
Flop comes 4 K A, rainbow.
Would you lead out as you were the preflop raiser even though it is more than likely one of your opponents holds an A or a K?
Since the pot is already pretty large due to a raise and two calls, the continuation bet would have to be pretty big for this reason, meaning you might be committing a decent portion of your stack if you are sort of a middle stack.
Would doing this, if it would cost a good portion of your stack, be a good idea as one of the other two players may raise you?
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07-09-2007 #1Chaser
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Question about continuation bets...
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07-09-2007 #2Stu Ungar
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i do it, but that doesnt mean you should
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07-09-2007 #3Chaser
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What do you believe should be done?
If it were against one opponent, I'd probably do it.
But against two or more, it seems too risky as one of them would have to have at least an ace or a king. That's my opinion though.
Others?
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07-09-2007 #4Poker Hustler
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if your stack is large enuff, why the hell you will continue betting if you know you are beat ? I would check and see what goes on after. Somebody with KQ might either check or bet little. The guy with the A might bet but if it'S a weak ace, he "Might" check too, fear of a check/raise. You just hope for a free card here.
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07-09-2007 #5Stu Ungar
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it is high risk. your looking for low rainbow flops, seperated cards, or maybe a paired board
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07-09-2007 #6Chaser
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I don't usually, I was just asking what you all thought. I hear it all the time "He should bet out here and keep the lead" on TV, so I was just wondering what you all thought.
Originally Posted by mister.x
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07-09-2007 #7Super Moderator
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Cash or tourneys? I can advise on 6max cash.
This has alot to do with your table image, reads/stats on your opponents etc. but also flop texture. In your example (assuming <50nl 6max), that flop is not as bad as you think, Kx hands are not liking that ace and hands like AK/AQ/AJ are mostly raising preflop so really the Ax hands in their range are low/mid ones.
Against this range you have good fold equity and you have to show that you're not afraid to cbet the big hand you represented preflop. If you give up on every A high flop people will soon notice and run over you. Just think, that flop is just as scary to them as it is to you and there are ALOT of other hands in their range which will insta muck to a cbet on that board (pairs, suited connectors etc).
If you raised pf with something like
and the flop was 
then I wouldn't want to cbet. That board hits a ton of hands, such as pairs, suited connectors, flush draws etc. In a 3way pot you have almost zero fold equity and are never in good shape.
Say you raise with the same hand and get a flop like
. That is an excellent flop to cbet as it is believable that you have a piece of it while at the same time it hits only a very small part of your opponents range. You have great fold equity in this case.
Obviously it's best to be heads up in these situations but you can still fire out in 3-way pots, just be a little more careful and do it less often.
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07-09-2007 #8Chaser
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It does, thanks for the reply.
How would it be different for a tournament type scenario?
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07-10-2007 #9Mike McDermott
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I advocate a very high cbet % in HU raised pots in cash
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07-10-2007 #10Siddhartha
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Depends on what the pf raise was. If it was a min raise, they could have A-3, and if they are decent players could be pushed off of it. If it was a 3bb+ raise, and they are decent players, they likely have an A,K (or both) with decent kickers so a c-bet may not be called for. However, I'd likely put in a 1/2 pot raise so I know where I am in the hand and fold to any further action.
Remember, they could also have QQ and fold to any raise on this flop. The best hand does not always win in Texas."People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and if they can't find them, they make them." - George Bernard Shaw
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