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06-28-2007, 01:19 PM
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Poker is Gambling
Followers of the analytical, mathematical poker theory need to understand and accept the term gambling. Poker is NOT a starting hand chart,followed by analytical, implied odd,pot odd, mathematical strategy. poker is gambling and gambling is to play games of chance for money. interesting game of chance- the happening of events without apparent cause,fortuity,luck. gambling(poker) is to play a game of luck for money.interesting how all the hand charts, implied odd, pot odd, analytical strategy just went out the window. gambling is to take a risk in order to gain some advantage. take a risk-to expose oneself to chance of injury or loss. yes loss-the damage,trouble, disadvantage, deprivation caused by losing something.(money will be lost). there is no strategy,theory,hand chart that will help you in poker. that is just someone writing a book for money. do you think they would write it for free ? accept the fact poker is gambling and your game will improve,otherwise keep following the futile advice from this site.
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06-28-2007, 01:21 PM
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good post.
the only thing is, you can improve your chances by not going all in with 7-2
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06-28-2007, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by thetruth
gambling is to take a risk in order to gain some advantage.
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This is actually a better description of poker than gambling in general. In games like blackjack, people take a risk and actually put themselves at a disadvantage by doing so. I agree that poker is gambling, but a line needs to be drawn between +EV gambling and -EV gambling. The former, hell yeah I do that all the time. The latter is for unhealthy degenerates.
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06-28-2007, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by thetruth
accept the fact poker is gambling and your game will improve,otherwise keep following the futile advice from this site.
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Not exactly sure of your point, but your post is not necessarily wrong. Poker is gambling, so is the stock market, so is leaving one job for a new one, so is getting married, so is pretty much the rest of life. The point is to gamble where you understand the variables and get involved when the odds are at least slightly in your favour rather than totally against. You may lose sometimes when you have a 99% chance of winning, but in the long run your BR should grow.
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06-28-2007, 01:46 PM
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Everything has luck in it, i think i read somewhere that the only activities that are 100% skill are chess and checkers, everything else requires luck. Correct me if i'm wrong .
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06-28-2007, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FaDi
Everything has luck in it, i think i read somewhere that the only activities that are 100% skill are chess and checkers, everything else requires luck. Correct me if i'm wrong .
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Scrabble. Yeah, you can say " I need to draw good letters " but, the more words you know, the less you need of certain letters but yeah, luck is still involved in scrabble, BUT, less than poker...
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06-28-2007, 02:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FaDi
Everything has luck in it, i think i read somewhere that the only activities that are 100% skill are chess and checkers, everything else requires luck. Correct me if i'm wrong .
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I think that chess requires a bit of luck if you're a person. Or rather, you need to avoid BAD luck. Bad luck would cause you to miss something. Maybe you could only get a motel room next to a train station, and it woke you up in the middle of the night. That's bad luck that would cause you to play worse.
That's just my opinion, anyway.
As far as luck vs. skill goes for poker... I laugh at this.
Webster's College Dictionary refers to a gamble as playing a game of chance for money or other stakes. Since poker is a game of skill with a small amount of luck involved (it is nearly impossible to get to a final table on pure luck, and it's also impossible to have +EV with pure luck. I have played against people who play on luck... they lose all their money FAST), it is, in fact, not gambling.
Also, given the name, I doubt that "thetruth" is here to post anything BUT this.
Go go USA govt. spam bots.
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06-28-2007, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thetruth
Followers of the analytical, mathematical poker theory need to understand and accept the term gambling. Poker is NOT a starting hand chart,followed by analytical, implied odd,pot odd, mathematical strategy. poker is gambling and gambling is to play games of chance for money. interesting game of chance- the happening of events without apparent cause,fortuity,luck. gambling(poker) is to play a game of luck for money.interesting how all the hand charts, implied odd, pot odd, analytical strategy just went out the window. gambling is to take a risk in order to gain some advantage. take a risk-to expose oneself to chance of injury or loss. yes loss-the damage,trouble, disadvantage, deprivation caused by losing something.(money will be lost). there is no strategy,theory,hand chart that will help you in poker. that is just someone writing a book for money. do you think they would write it for free ? accept the fact poker is gambling and your game will improve,otherwise keep following the futile advice from this site.
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Ive been away, come back, and theres still prats talking this crap
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06-28-2007, 03:19 PM
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Not exactly sure of your point, but your post is not necessarily wrong. Poker is gambling, so is the stock market, so is leaving one job for a new one, so is getting married, so is pretty much the rest of life.
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This is the greatest gamble of all!
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06-28-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by thetruth
There is no strategy,theory,hand chart that will help you in poker. that is just someone writing a book for money.
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