near bubble Ultra-shortstacked (<2bb) in the sb with 62 off...

**feint06** · 06-20-2007

Say you're at the final table in a medium tournament and just suffered a bad beat while in the big blind. You now have just over 1bb left (including the small blind you posted). A solid player UTG raised and the table has folded to you. You look down and find nearly the worst possible starting hand: 62 offsuit.

Is this a situation where you have to push ATC? There are no antes and you could look at another 8 hands (full 10-handed table) before the big blind. But you would have less than 1bb's worth of chips to multiply by...

Tournament pays down to 8th, so unless a multi-way all-in hand develops, you probably can't limp into the money.

**feint06** · 06-20-2007

Here is my thinking:

Pro push: if you win, you're getting paid based on all of your chips. Basically you're getting a chance to win 2.5bb for .5bb (5:1). With two live cards, you can't be that much of a dog so you're getting the right pot odds...

Con push: 3:1 chance you're out of the tournament now, with no money...

Pro folding: You will probably come across a pocket pair or two big cards in the next 8 hands. Hopefully you'll be slight favorite and have a better chance of staying in the tournament. Plus, there is a small chance two of your opponents will get into a big hand and bust out of the tournament in the meantime -- landing you in the money...

Con folding: Your call of .5bb will not scare anyone out of the pot, so you will probably face more opponents. While you may be a favorite preflop, you'd probably be at best 35% to win against 4 other hands. But you still could end up being a dog with worse odds than that... Additionally, you now have less money multiply by. If you win, you'll probably only get 2.5 bb (your .5 + 4 others') vs 3bb if you get lucky with 6-2 off...

**SeanyBullets1** · 06-20-2007

Here's my thinking: how are you at a final table with no antes????

Anyway, it's ALL-IN. With 1 BB, and being at a final table, all other stacks must be up over 20K chips. So you'd need to double up A LOT, hahaha.

**WotaWaster** · 06-20-2007

Here's my thinking: how are you at a final table with no antes????

LOL

**feint06** · 06-20-2007

Originally Posted by SeanyBullets1

Here's my thinking: how are you at a final table with no antes????

Anyway, it's ALL-IN. With 1 BB, and being at a final table, all other stacks must be up over 20K chips. So you'd need to double up A LOT, hahaha.

Its a goddamn local tournament... You start with 3300 chips. Blinds are 25/50

Every 15 minutes they go up:

50/100
100/200 (chip up to $100 chips only)
200/400
500/1000 (chip up to $500 chips only)
1000/2000
2000/4000
4000/8000
8000/16000

By the time you get to 1000/2000 no one has 10bbs. It's a fucking ridiculous donkament all-in fest by now. I think of the final table more as bingo than poker, but I'd still like to win more than my fair share....

**jamesbond007** · 06-20-2007

I would say fold. There is a high probability that there will be some one out of the tournament before you with such blinds and if you double up once or twice you have 7 more hands to stick around for hoping another player might end being out or you might double up with good cards.
what did you do? and what is the result?

**feint06** · 06-20-2007

I called and lost to QQ...

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