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Old 06-18-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default A load of hands to analyze .. thanks for the help everyone

Button ($10.51)
Hero ($9.90)
BB ($6.22)
UTG ($2.87)
UTG+1 ($6.32)
MP1 ($5.45)
MP2 ($1.92)
MP3 ($9.28)
CO ($10.28)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10.

Flop: ($0.35) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $0.2, UTG+1 raises to $0.6, Hero calls $0.40.

Turn: ($1.55) (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.5, Hero calls $1.50.

River: ($4.55) (2 players)
Hero bets $4.35, UTG+1 calls $4.07 (All-In).

Final Pot: $12.97
Main Pot: $12.69, between Hero and UTG+1.
Pot 2: $0.27, returned to Hero.
1)
Turns out I made the right call here but hopefully someone can come up with a logical way to face this situation.
So I have no other info on this guy. I put him on Aces on the flop though so I just call to hit the flush. Then I was really dumbstruck when it hit. I was like, do i bet out to hide my nut flush or slowplay? And then river, I thought maybe I could make it look like a bluff or something .. represent a deuce ... It worked because there's so many stupid ppl in 2c 5c games ...
So phil gordon says when you improve on the turn, just play aggressively and bet out like 1/2 pot .. so I should have done that and value bet on the river?
2)
Also, (on the same day I flopped or turned like 5 nut-flushes), I bet out like 40c pot bet on the flop with nut flush and this one guy remaining in the pot raised me minimum .. probably with top pair kings. When I flop flush, I'm afraid that the 4th suited comes on the turn/river so I re-raised his bet to about $1.50 and he folded ... I'm guessing that fear is pretty worthless and should have slowplayed?


3) Sorry for not converting this but this makes me SO MAD

Table 'Sphinx' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: AFCA Joeble ($4.33 in chips)
Seat 6: 21charger21 ($5.76 in chips)
Seat 7: CreePrincess ($6.66 in chips)
Seat 8: burea1124 ($19.02 in chips)
CreePrincess: posts small blind $0.02
burea1124: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to burea1124 [Qh Qd]
AFCA Joeble: raises $0.05 to $0.10
21charger21: folds
CreePrincess: calls $0.08
burea1124: raises $0.20 to $0.30
AFCA Joeble: calls $0.20
CreePrincess: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [4d 5s Qc]
CreePrincess: checks
burea1124: checks
AFCA Joeble: bets $0.10
CreePrincess: calls $0.10
burea1124: calls $0.10
*** TURN *** [4d 5s Qc] [As]
CreePrincess: checks
burea1124: bets $0.20
21charger21 leaves the table
AFCA Joeble: calls $0.20
CreePrincess: calls $0.20
*** RIVER *** [4d 5s Qc As] [2d]
CreePrincess: checks
burea1124: bets $0.30
AFCA Joeble: raises $3.43 to $3.73 and is all-in
CreePrincess: calls $3.73
burea1124: raises $3.43 to $7.16
CreePrincess: calls $2.33 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
burea1124: shows [Qh Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
CreePrincess: shows [3s 3d] (a straight, Ace to Five)
CreePrincess collected $4.41 from side pot
AFCA Joeble: mucks hand
CreePrincess collected $12.39 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.65 Main pot $12.39. Side pot $4.41. | Rake $0.85
Board [4d 5s Qc As 2d]
Seat 2: AFCA Joeble mucked [Jd Ks]
Seat 6: 21charger21 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: CreePrincess (small blind) showed [3s 3d] and won ($16.80) with
a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 8: burea1124 (big blind) showed [Qh Qd] and lost with three of a kind, Queens

I had no info on these two guys ... so I slowplay my set because the flop is so good for me ... the Ace comes on the turn so I bet out a little hoping I would be raised ... and the river basically screws me ... Is it almost always wise to bet out my good hands in a multi-way pot even when the flop comes out that good? I usually don't try to slowplay a lot but with only 2 others in the pot, I thought I could afford a slowplay. It worked charms on the stupid guy but wow ... any advice?
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:10 PM
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1st hand, I like it. I raise bigger preflop (and sometimes I just complete rather than raise) but other than that I play the hand pretty much the same.

2nd one, I probably do the same depending on the opponent. You don't want to slowplay too much as you want to protect yourself for when you have a weak hand.

3rd hand, this was over slowplayed imo. On the flop I just like betting out for 2/3 pot, do that and they won't put you on a hand like QQ. As played you have to raise, there's no value from calling such a small bet, I pop it up to $1.

As played on the turn bet much bigger, at least $1. There is a flush draw and a straight draw and that ace either means you'll get lots of action or get none at all, so there's no point in waiting until the river to get the money in, if there's action to be had you'll get it now.

I would suggest reading wota's thread on slowplaying in the general strategy forum, that'll give you some good pointers.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:25 PM
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thank you for the constant replies, I appreciate it

Yeah, I missed the straight + flush draw on the turn ... wow

Wota's thread is very good, and next time, I will bet out like crazy when

there's at least slight chance that I can get outdrawn

go aggressive poker
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