These are my last few months summed up into the graph of my last few days.

There are some huge holes in my game, those of which i do not know, and thus cannot patch. IDK what my line is now. I feel like im not getting any better, and right now im not playing steady winning poker. The graph is very short term, however thats how its been for a long while now.

This is really pathetic that i can no longer beat NL25 with a sold winrate. I'm at like .5PTBB/100. WTF!!! This is NL25, i mean come on. Games have obviously gotten harder, considering i use to beat NL25 on party when i had no idea what i was doing, but thats not the point. This is NL25 and i should be able to beat it with a solid rate.

So i ask the successful, or the people still learning at the same level as me, members of PFO. How are you getting better? I am watching CR, reading advice threads, blah blah blah, but i am not getting to where i need to be.

Whats my line here?

/rant

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If i saw this as someone elses graph id just say "meh its variance keep going" but multiple the graph by like 10 and you have my last months

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Dan,

I know you have the poker knowledge to beat $25NL. Your biggest problem is your mental attitude by miles.

1. You really need to sort out your dealing with bad beats (and some of the "beats" you post are like I got my 7bb stack all in with AJ and lost to KT which is not even a beat).
I know a lot of good players tilt badly and everyone tilts to some extent but excessively taking losses personally indicates that on some level you don't understand the fundamentals of poker. When I sit down in the right frame of mind (and someone like kre8r who has sweated me can attest to this) the effect on getting outdrawn in a big pot is very minimal on my emotioanl/psychological state.
I will say Ok he played that awfully, that reminds me why I'm in the game so I will reload and hopefully get into another good spot against him.
I am not trying to come across as a saint of course I tilt alot at times but that is when I am in the wrong frame of mind and this is actually an issue I am trying to resolve within myself.

I know you will say you understand this and I am sure in theory you do, but you have to really feel it. Look at your behaviour as totally illogical and change it. The object of poker is to get your money in as a favourite and gamble. If you are losing with flopped sets to gutshot draws you are in the right game. Smile when you get outdrawn, love bad beats - they are what will make your profit if you are a winning player.

2. When I sit down in a game I expect to win. I believe I am a lucky person and I believe I will run well. If you sit down thinking I run so bad and I am unlucky you will indeed lose more often than not.
Of course your attitude can't influence the cards but you will not play optimally because constantly thinking about losing will change your brain chemistry to the point you are basically trying to lose.
You may underplay your semi-strong hands like TPTK fearing they are probably already outdrawn anyway both losing value and giving free cards.
You may fold too frequently figuring hey everyone else flopped a set on me today I'm sure he did too.
Basically you will have the attitude of a loser and play like a loser and funnily enough you will lose.

Wow, Wota. I am seriously going to read your post before every session i start.

I think you honestly just figured out why i gave up paintball after like 5 years, multiple teams, and multiple tournament wins. Which i never understood what happened

Your good

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Good post wota.

You can't underestimate the effect of your psychological state and reading your post, I read a few lines where I thought to myself, "Yeah, that's definitely me."

Wota, u just put ur finger on my problem too (even tho its pretty obv from my rr posts)

i KNOW its my problem now and i KNOW its been my problem over the past year but still it creeps in every now and again.

i KNOW the donks wont hit the perfect river against my monster hands every time, i KNOW i lose bets on good hands cos im convinced that im either already beat or im gonna get outdrawn, i KNOW i tilt way too much when they do over a prolonged period, i KNOW im donking off chips in stupid situations when i do tilt, i KNOW if i keep playing i normally do that ill beat these guys but still i lose the plot way too much.

i also KNOW that if i dont sort it out in the near future, i may as well give it up altogether

i would recommend reading "The Poker Mindset" by, i think, Matthew Hilger.....my gf bought it for me a few weeks back and its a good read. Like most of the psychological books, everything is obvious but its still good to read it in such plain terms.


hello pfo, my name is Dee and im a tiltaholic.

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One thing I noticed about Wota is that he takes breaks relatively frequently. Dan, you seem to have a problem with tilt. Honestly, and you all know this, tilt is one of the biggest problems that all poker players deal with. IMO the worst thing about tilt is when we allow it to truly affect our play. You simply cannot continue playing when you are tilting if you know it will affect your play. This is a serious discipline. Wota is very good at this in that when he begins to get on edge he immediatly puts up a tilt alert. In the times I have watched Wota play I noticed that he seems to take a break very soon after he takes a bad beat. I started using this tactic and it has seriously worked wonders for me. This last weekend is a perfect example. At the worst I was down like $30 at NL10 6max. When I took my worst 2 beats of that session I took breaks each time. I then returned and continued playing to finally finish $5 up. I know this is a small amount to be up after a 1500 hand session but it still beats being down $30. I honestly believe that my ability to come back from a $30 deficit to being $5 profitable is from Wota's example of the importance of taking breaks and relieving mood and behaviour altering tilt.

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KRE8R probably has about seventy college funds in his NL5 roll.

I realize that this is probably a stupid question, but what is TPTK?

TPTK = top pair top kicker.

sweet, I thought your were gonna quit poker.

I'd suggest being loser in position, and tighter OOP. play small pots and go w/ your gut.

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looks like you're a break even player, if you have months of these results you're a break even player. Instead of saying, "I know I can beat the NL25" why don't you examine why you're not beating it.

There's more to winning poker than tight/aggressive play, position, check-raises/semi-bluffs. you need to make sure you're in the right mindset when you sit down (wota covered this pretty in depth), and make sure you're focused on the game and not browsing the net/playing too many tables.

those are 2 areas you could be lacking in.

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