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    Default some folds

    PV wasnt working so no reads

    http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?page=view&hand=39886
    http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?page=view&hand=39887 - i played it wrong didnt give myself any info. notice his limp/min raise PF
    http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?page=view&hand=39889 - with his stack wasnt sure what to do pf
    http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?page=view&hand=39892 - prob played it wrong on flop. i thought either JT or 77.

    i already learned something from these hands. i need to play them differently so that they give me info whether im good or not.


    for the future do you guys want straight up HHs or from pokerhand. also kid are you working on anything? i feel you miss things from plain HHs, but some people complain with pokerhand. either way let me know after your comments on the folds.

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    Hand 1: Pretty standard fold
    Hand 2: You call after the raise PF was OK, but you definitely have to bet that turn, and fold the river there
    Hand 3: Kind of weird, that is a sizable raise UTG from him, so I think folding on the flop was the best option, and I think the call PF was good
    Hand 4: I hate the limp PF, I'm just folding, and I think you have the push the flop after his raise, 77 is possible, but I think JT is more likely

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    4 the limp is fine. its nl25 on party

    i can value everything and fold when im beat

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    I think you might have folded good on 4, but you were the one on the table and had a better idea on the guy and it's kinda tough to read. It kinda looks like you played yourself for weak and he made a big bet because of it. The rest are good folds. I guess the only thing you can do is push a little harder on the flop.

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    hand 1, with the limp minimum reraise I would have popped it to 6, reraise all in I fold. if he calls I'm potting it on that flop. you didn't do a good job of defining his hand in my opinion (*of course you obviously know these players better than me).

    hand 2, I don't like the raise. either raise your typical amount or fold, your raises seem to vary. AQ you want 1 caller at the most raising to $1 is asking for trouble, too many hands could call that small of a raise even though it is 4X the blind.

    hand 3 again i think you need to pop this preflop to see what he does, use your position to make him "tell you what he's got" by his actions. you calling 3 cold tells me that there is nowaythat flop helped you, he probably played you like a fiddle with AQ or AK.

    hand 4 calling preflop was a mistake and is what left you guessing after the flop, just muck that cheese from up front.

    just opinions, like I said you know the situastion and players better than me
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    http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?page=view&hand=39958

    i normally dont post results but feels good folding on a great board for AK. its semi glory cornerish sry lol

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    NO READS! i dont watch them i 4 table and read this and other shit lol. kinda like im doing now...

    my raises vary because of limpers. it has to vary... 4x is fine though

    steve, i think you got 1 and 2 backwards?
    anyway KK eh.... i was looking for a K. prob EV+ doing it like that just based on hitting a set and getting paid. if i raise to $6 1) they dont always push with AA(i wouldnt) 2) QQ and AKs still push sometimes.

    im not folding AQ pf and 4x is fine. i was looking for post flop advice

    he had a $20 stack and raised to $3. wtf do you want me to raise that doesnt PC myself but tells me anything. that hand was very hard i dno what was right. anyway he had a4o for a complete bluff??

    whats wrong with KQ? KQ is up $52 for 21k hands at mostly NL25

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    im not folding AQ pf and 4x is fine. i was looking for post flop advice
    why ask for advice or comments and then reply like this???

    whats wrong with KQ? KQ is up $52 for 21k hands at mostly NL25
    so KQ makes you about what $.10 every time you have it? and what are the #s in EP?

    he had a $20 stack and raised to $3. wtf do you want me to raise that doesnt PC myself but tells me anything. that hand was very hard i dno what was right. anyway he had a4o for a complete bluff??
    what the fuck is pot committed in a ring game? I hate this term and the fact that people use it to justify a loose call, you are never pot committed.

    the guy had $17 left and there is a $15 pot. there is no pot committed. and my advice was for preflop, lets deal with 1 mistake a time. on the flop you can't call a re-raise unless you think he has zip and is going to bluff off the rest of his money, either fold right there or move him all in. you allowec the guy to bluff you, and I'm assuming the QQ hand is the same thing.

    NO READS! i dont watch them i 4 table and read this and other shit lol. kinda like im doing now...
    ummm.... maybe you should start by evaluating this first

    my raises vary because of limpers. it has to vary... 4x is fine though
    You were first in that is what I was talking about, not varying your raises.
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    i would like to quote and everything but im lazy and 4 tabling so try to keep up

    whats wrong with raising to $1 with AQo in EP? that covers like 4 quotes lol. i think AQ is good enough and im not going to change. i was just looking specific advice on the fold or how i played it.

    i dont play KQo all the time. table specific and shit. sample size isnt enough so i dno. i think its ev+ though. even if barely, its still ev+

    so he has $17 left and i raise 9 i guess? so if he pushes im folding? call $11 to win $40. almost 4:1 with QQ... thats called PCed. i dno it was a tough spot like i said. i dno

    about the reads i didnt dl the new patch for PV that has .25 BB for party lol. theres no need for reads its not worth it

    still dno what you are talking about with the varying raises and 1st in? explain it to me

    PS seems like you are angry with me or something like that. i was just stating my opinions sry if i came off wrong. i have nothing against you or whatever

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    no you are not stating opinion, you seeked out comments and advice and when you got one you didn't want to hear you you ignore it and say it is wrong in not so many words. if you felt your opinions in the original post were the correct thing to do and you don't need further comment why bother to post it?

    I'm not pissed at you, I'm a little aggravated that someone seeking comments about his play totally ignores the ones given and just sticks to his own conclusions.

    whats wrong with raising to $1 with AQo in EP? that covers like 4 quotes lol. i think AQ is good enough and im not going to change. i was just looking specific advice on the fold or how i played it.
    because in $25 NL you are going to get callers and there hands will not be defined, they could have 56 offsuit at these tables. I gave you specific advice on the fold, IF YOU HAD PLAYED IT DIFFERENTLY YOU WOULDN"T HAVE BEEN MOVED OFF THE BEST HAND.

    But like you said you're not going to change, keep playing unknown opponents at the lowest stake on PP and laying down top piar and overpairs. maybe if you paid better attention you would know the guy calls raises to $1 with A4 offsuit and then bluffs the flop.
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