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    Mike McDermott
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    Default Converting to 6 max

    I've always been more of a tournament player but have recently turned my hand to playing more cash games. I've just signed up for a new site with rakeback but the majority of the cash games are 6 max. The problem is that I've always been a more successful full ring player.

    I know roughly how to alter my game to play 6 max but I was wondering if any of the 6 max de-gens out there could shed a little more light on the difference between 6 max play and full ring. Anything I need to know other than hand values going up?

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    im assuming that u play NL?

    maybe its not the same for NL as it is for LHE(which is the only 6max i play) but id expect more variance than ur used to at full ring....lots and lots and lots of variance.
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    Yeah definitely NL. I'm hoping rakeback and bonuses can help the extra variance not feel as bad!

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    one tip

    play more aggressive

    ie k9 suited in the co and on the button, 9 7 suited co button etc then of course your c betting just about every flop that has decent texture..

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    What about 1st and 2nd position opening requirements?

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    6max is the same as ring as if the first 3 people folded, pretty much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex View Post
    6max is the same as ring as if the first 3 people folded, pretty much.
    Not really in my experience. Around the $25NL - $400NL levels the 6max and full ring games I have played/observed play very differently.

    If you open the cut off at a $100NL full ring game the majority of opponents will still only reraise you with something like QQ+ and AK out of the blinds.
    At 6 max this range is far wider for an average opponent. Even the donks will play back with hands like 88 here.
    You just don't really see that many all ins at a full ring table unless it involves two big pairs QQ+, however at 6max JJ vs AK all in preflop is pretty common.

    I think you will enjoy 6max. Get prepared to face a much more aggressive game. People will bluff more and you will be in a lot of more marginal spots. But if you are a good player this is where your edge should come in .

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    I just meant that your hand values don't go up because less people are dealt in.

    Yes, the games are more aggressive, mostly because the better players understand two things:

    A.) Be aggressive and

    B.) Avoid playing pots in the first 2-3 seats of a 9-10 handed table.

    They know others are being more aggressive, so their FE goes up to be aggressive and 6max gets you more hands/per hour to play because 30-33% of your hands dealt aren't irrelevant.
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    But the blind pressure makes a big difference.

    You get to see 10 hands for 1.5bb in full ring and only 6 hands for 1.5bb in 6max.

    Limping all pairs to play for set value from any position and raising QQ+ and AK is a viable strategy which will beat most full ring NLHE games up to $400NL online and even higher on some sites with good game selection.

    This would never work in 6max.
    A 10/2 player can beat full ring and I guess his stats in the last 6 seats are actually the same as in the first four seats since he limps any pairs and raises QQ+ and AK from any position but even if he did play more selectively by position his stats in the last six seats are maybe 14/3. I don't think this is a viable preflop strategy to beat 6max games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex View Post
    6max is the same as ring as if the first 3 people folded, pretty much.
    Aside from blinds, this also makes scary cards like an ace or a king less likely to come up in someone's hand. If you have 2 kings and an ace comes up on the flop, it's less likely that your opponent will have an ace (this is assuming you have no reads on him), which makes your two kings not as bad now.

    This may not seem important, but it is. It means that if your opponents play more aggressively, they can push you out of a pot because you're afraid of that ace, whereas if you play more aggressively, they will be scared.

    Also, the value of hands like A6 goes up. It now becomes a better hand when an ace comes on the flop and your opponent bets. Well, I play in $.04/$.08 limit games, so my opponents are always doing this, ace on the flop or not, but the point remains the same.
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