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    Default MTT Pushbot Charts

    I found this on 4 a while ago and I thought I posted it here, but I apparently didn't. These are Pushbot Charts. They're based on cEV, not $EV, so don't use these for SNG's.
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    Very nice. One caveat though:

    Some of the pushes are borderline. If your M is >= 10, you have AJ offsuit and push UTG, it can be a losing play in the long run. Even with the given ranges, it is just about break-even. You gain nothing here. So make sure your M is really WORSE than what is given in the chart!
    Last edited by OrionPro; May 24th, 2007 at 11:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaFish View Post
    Very nice. One caveat though:

    Some of the pushes are borderline. If your M is >= 10, you have AJ offsuit and push UTG, it can be a losing play in the long run. Even with the given ranges, it is just about break-even. You gain nothing here. So make sure your M is really WORSE than what is given in the chart!
    The M's in the chart are maximums, not straight-shooting definites. Also, there is deviation to be done, as the "art" of push/fold that it takes to not just go deep, but pwn consistently, is really dependent on situation.

    There was a $10r yesterday that was pretty interesting. The result was gay as a whole, but I was in push/fold from the 200/400 level through the 800/1600 level and I'm gonna do a couple of videos on that push/fold hour through my bustout and put it up against the Chart to show how I made those deviations to being 700th of 750 left to being one of the 180 that cashed and getting to the 4k/8k level where I eventually went busto with 48 left.

    I think it directs to that center between perfection and spewing. It isn't anywhere near perfect, but the chart, in a vacuum, is spewing as any formulaic form of poker is, if isn't nitty to the point of taking it in the ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaDi View Post
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    GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex View Post
    The M's in the chart are maximums, not straight-shooting definites. Also, there is deviation to be done, as the "art" of push/fold that it takes to not just go deep, but pwn consistently, is really dependent on situation.

    There was a $10r yesterday that was pretty interesting. The result was gay as a whole, but I was in push/fold from the 200/400 level through the 800/1600 level and I'm gonna do a couple of videos on that push/fold hour through my bustout and put it up against the Chart to show how I made those deviations to being 700th of 750 left to being one of the 180 that cashed and getting to the 4k/8k level where I eventually went busto with 48 left.
    Awesome! Looking forward to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by the alex View Post
    I think it directs to that center between perfection and spewing. It isn't anywhere near perfect, but the chart, in a vacuum, is spewing as any formulaic form of poker is, if isn't nitty to the point of taking it in the ass
    I did some simple calculations once to give me a rough idea what hands are always a push, regardless of opponents calling ranges. With an M of 10, afair it was roughly AK from EP, AQ+ from MP and AJ+ from LP. Pairs I think were TT+ from EP, 88+ from MP and 66+ from LP. Not as good as putting opponents on precise calling ranges of course, but still good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jharding666 View Post
    Alex's legendary status at the forums soars even higher!
    I didn't know he had status. I thought that was considered unfair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jharding666 View Post
    Alex's legendary status at the forums soars even higher!
    If he wrote the chart I'd QFT and promise un-ending devotion, but for posting the link I'll simply state my appreciation. Thanks Alex.
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