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    Default passive agressive.....

    I dont know how other people feel, but I believe in a passive agressive strategy. I mean I believe in (at 10 person table ) playing quite tight but when I have a hand that equals 20 or 21 or pockets higher than 88 to raise and push meaning I like to raise enough(about 4 times BB) to get down to heads up, and if I hit to push hard.....with pockets, I will even push hard heads up with 2nd high pair....now that said this workds quite well with online play, since you find a lot of marginal poker play...and since they cant see you too! Bottom line is agressive play will calm and even silence those poker players that think they will play any hand to try and steal money from you with a 4th street bet........you must DEMAND respect.....not in the CARDS that YOU PLAY but in the fact that even if you show that 72 off suit bluff, the fact is you are showing your balls to the table, that if you play with me just be ready to bet it all, and you will just never know WHAT I HAVE! AGGRESSIVE!

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    I call that tight aggressive, and its a very valid strat (Especially online where tells are limited to timing and past experience with a player)

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    Default alternatively

    With online poker ppl using PT can tell if you're over valuing pairs. As you are voluntarily putting money into the pot ppl and have high volume preflop betting at >14%. Some ppl will wise up quickly and start calling you with AK, AQ,AJ, KQ, QJ, KJ and then calling you down on top pair. However the entry to flop is reduced and ppl who would have previously played mid suited connectors start to fold more...

    Worse than this.. what I've seen is that this strategy tightens tables very quickly..you need money on the table before you can win it. PPL look at you bettting preflop hard and ask questions.. Everyone on the table looks at you and wants to take a shot.. personally I like to fade in the background and take ppl on the river where there is more money at less risk.

    What I've also seen with some players using this approach is they have a 'put down' problem. Its seems hard for some of them to give up when they are beaten and they will even call at the river (e.g "he must be bluffing...I do"). This gives their opponents great implied odds as the defeat premium is so high..


    When I did some work on this strategy/bluff mask I found that my BB/100 halved on tables with a starting flop entry of 50% ( it dropped pretty soon after I started). There's no doubt that the strategy is winning.. but I have reservations that its a maximum return strategy..

    The final killer is the rake. If you get ppl to have a go at you.. you enter into high volume/marginal hand play- there's only one winner here... the house..

    just my view...
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    if you're a passive/aggressive than I'm loose/tight
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    WTF was the point of this thread? Oh yeah. The same point of every centralmrb thread- self-promotion.

    This is TA play, central. I'm a TPA because I tend to not be what I feel is overly aggressive PF because I'll get the action on my QQ, JJ, AK, TT if I hit a huge flop anyway and I minimize my losses. This is characterized by PT and if I were still playing .25/.50, I'd be a TA probably, but the 1/2NLHE UB tables are 10-handed, and the play is different. The bad players are worse and the good players are better. Situational play is required there.
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    so central, you'll be joining the forum in the pf.org tourney right? to show us your... remarkable skills

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    would you like to place a little wager mr central?

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    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.5 BB (9 handed) converter

    BB ($9)
    UTG ($34.06)
    UTG+1 ($29.55)
    MP1 ($35)
    xxdemexx ($40.25)
    MP3 ($28.93)
    CO ($18.5)
    Button ($22.65)
    SB ($30.72)

    Preflop: xxdemexx is MP2 with K :cthulhu:, K :dance:.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, xxdemexx raises to $3, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.50.

    Flop: ($6.75) 6 :siren:, 7 :siren:, 2 :ham: (2 players)
    UTG+1 bets $3, xxdemexx raises to $6, UTG+1 calls $3.

    Turn: ($18.75) 8 :cthulhu: (2 players)
    UTG+1 bets $3, xxdemexx calls $3.

    River: ($24.75) 4 :cthulhu: (2 players)
    UTG+1 bets $5, xxdemexx calls $5.

    Final Pot: $34.75
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    Umm Dem, theres no cards that I can see.... love the format... but....
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

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    Default oops

    I was playing with a card converter... hit submit instead of preview by mistake!!! ..
    See me playing $10/$20NL like it was play money

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