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    Poker Hustler puddlejumper's Avatar
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    Default Choose your own adventure

    What do you guys think, are you beat?

    Hand #4595774-587 at West Fargo (No Limit Hold'em)
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    Started at 24/Feb/05 23:24:12

    Lil Bob is at seat 1 with $24.45.
    fletch83 is at seat 3 with $25.90.
    dietDrThunder is at seat 4 with $43.85.
    pacesetter20 is at seat 6 with $28.60.
    MRS O JOE is at seat 7 with $18.85.
    average-joe is at seat 8 with $9.25.
    crzyjed1 is at seat 9 with $6.80.
    The button is at seat 6.

    MRS O JOE posts the small blind of $.10.
    average-joe posts the big blind of $.25.

    Lil Bob: -- --
    fletch83: -- --
    dietDrThunder: -- --
    pacesetter20: Ad As
    MRS O JOE: -- --
    average-joe: -- --
    crzyjed1: -- --

    Pre-flop:

    crzyjed1 folds. Lil Bob calls. fletch83 folds.
    dietDrThunder folds. pacesetter20 calls. MRS O JOE
    calls. average-joe checks.

    Flop (board: 2s Td 6h):

    MRS O JOE checks. average-joe checks. Lil Bob
    checks. pacesetter20 bets $1. MRS O JOE raises to
    $4. average-joe folds. Lil Bob folds.
    pacesetter20 calls.

    Turn (board: 2s Td 6h 4c):

    MRS O JOE goes all-in for $14.60.

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    I think I played this hand pretty poorly, I didn't raise preflop cause I was I assumed that the blinds would fold and I'd win a few cents, so I thought I'd play second best hand. My flop play was even worse (IMO), the bet was pretty weak and I probably should have re-raised, but I didn't cause I was kinda worried about a trash two pair since it was the SB. The all-in on the turn is really worrying me. I'm thinking I'm beat by a raggedy two pair or perhaps pocket sixes or deuces (I'm ruling out 4's and ten's as I would assume a raise if he had pocket ten's). Here's what I think he has that I'm beat by: 2-10, 6-10, 2-6, 22, 66, and 10-10 (although unlikely) OR I played the hand like a big sissy and laid down a winner? I don't know if its relevant but four hands earlier this guy lost a huge pot when diet bluffed and hit a four outer to make a straight. What do you guys think? I'll post what I did later (you keep quiet about the result diet!).
    Bean181818: some guy came up just grabbed my hand and starting massaging it, since it wasn't you, i told him to fuck off
    xcrunman02: yeah only I can do that, i don't need some gook trying to get with my life partner
    Bean181818: i've been faithful
    xcrunman02: me too
    Bean181818: peck tried to get all this but i told him this was all taken, all of it!

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    OK you ran up against either a set or a wacko 2 pair.

    Preflop- Raise, even just a little to keep just the better, more eaisly dominated hands in against you. You really dont want the Sb or BB taking a free flop and hitting 722 for a boat.

    Flop- After the reraise, time to end it. Put them in.

    You cant esacpe AA with such a raggedy board.
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

    Luck is a Residue of Design.

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    Eh, playing past what you showed us is just guessing. If this guy was incredibly loose, I'd probably fold. But if he was moderately tight, I'd be very tempted to call here. I'm not sure his play dictates having a set and the turn all in actually makes me want to call him more. It's hard to tell since you bet so little :-p I vote call and hope to suck him out

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    Puddle, you never told us what happened and you're letting this thread sink into the bottomless pit of non-threadness

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    If you check the turn and he bets large on the river, you've got him and he's stealing. Your check will make him bet again like he did on the flop and I think you could call that. I believe he's got a ten and a face. No reason for him to try to trap. You've shown him that you wanna play and he made a standard pot-sized lead. Judging from his call on the flop, I don't think that he has a set. He's looking to maximize and your $4 wasn't the first action and isn't a good steal attempt, so I think that most players are pushing at least a minimum re-raise in the pot.

    Your stack less than $5 more than the pot, yes. But another $4 isn't a bad way to go. If he's trapping with a set, he's moving in or calling. With a ten, he's calling. If he moves in, you can just save your $10 and fold. If he calls, he's gonna keep the trap going and you two can check-check.

    I'm not saying that your all in was bad. I'm just stating the options. Personally, I'm betting the same $4 in your spot.

    Especially at these $25 tables, have the max in your stack. Nothing wrong with rebuying every time that you fall to $20 at the least. You pot commit yourself very easily with 81BB's in your stack. In the 5/5 game that I play, I've never under $425 going into a hand. Your increasing your variance if you're buying for so low or even the max. You wanna have a high minimum stack standard to play the hand. You're making your own odds in your favor at times when in the practical context of the numbers, you're hurting your profit and losing slowly.
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    the alex, I dunno if you got a little confused, but he was the SB and I was on the button...I didn't move all-in on the turn...he did, I didn't have the chance to act.

    Nomanner, I was waiting for some more replies, before I posted results.
    Bean181818: some guy came up just grabbed my hand and starting massaging it, since it wasn't you, i told him to fuck off
    xcrunman02: yeah only I can do that, i don't need some gook trying to get with my life partner
    Bean181818: i've been faithful
    xcrunman02: me too
    Bean181818: peck tried to get all this but i told him this was all taken, all of it!

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    I definitely got confused. I was wondering why his turn action wasn't there.

    I would've liked a fold on the flop. You limped and put yourself in a position to not lose much. Because of no raising PF, he could be C/R ing you with AT or even JJ, but you don't have much invested. If he doesn't have TT, 66, or 22, he's gonna keep making moves like this and he'll pay you off. If he does have one of these hands, you make the right move as well.

    My original post was basically to "MRS O JOE" if he had AA and I said off the bat that "pacesetter's" call is weak. I think that you are in a raise of fold position on the flop after he raises.

    Raise PF with AA and make it good. Winning a couple of blinds is better than losing 20+ as you did.
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    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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    Well, actually I only lost 4.25, cause I folded on the turn after he went all-in.
    Bean181818: some guy came up just grabbed my hand and starting massaging it, since it wasn't you, i told him to fuck off
    xcrunman02: yeah only I can do that, i don't need some gook trying to get with my life partner
    Bean181818: i've been faithful
    xcrunman02: me too
    Bean181818: peck tried to get all this but i told him this was all taken, all of it!

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    17BB's with AA isn't bad. But winning 3 or 4 is better.

    Good fold.
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    GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
    GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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