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Thread: 10k Stat Check

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    Default 10k Stat Check

    Well I've played my first 10k hands at 0.25/0.50 6 Max NLHE.

    The stats below are from Tribeca and Ladbrokes. To be honest I've only used PT to replay certain hands, getting ideas on how my opponents play and checking my winrate. I haven't really used it to track my play until now because I've read many times that the stats don't have much meaning until you reach 10k hands.

    My first thoughts when I looked in detail are that I'm playing too many hands & not raising enough pre-flop. I'm also probably completing too much in the SB. I don't really know how to interpret the other stats so would appreciate some feedback.

    I'm a member of CR and read here regularly so I know that vast majority of time I should be raising pre-flop, but I find that against the level of player that I'm up against it isn't optimal. They call a lot and basically don't know how to fold. Based on my winrate should I be looking at playing more conventionally and being tighter / aggressive preflop or should I carry on as I am knowing that I'm making up for it with better post flop play?

    I have checked back on others stats and noticed that McJ had similar stats when he first started playing at this level and was also beating the games for about 10BBs back then.
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    Honestly if your main concern at present is to make money beating $50NL then change nothing. Thats actually 32bb or $16 per 100 hands which is an amazing win rate.

    Whilst 10k hands gives an idea of win rate it is not totally accurate so I would keep playing the same way until you have played 30k hands, if the win rate doesnt drop, no need to change anything.

    If you want to start moving up levels then maybe you need to change your style, but worry about that as and when you come to it.

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    yep.. its a spectacular win rate.

    As a rule of thumb when you post win rates like this -you spend the next three weeks in the river rats section

    Although my win rate at a slightly higher level (I play in Euros) is less. I think you've had a bit of fun (ie good hands)at mid and on SB. I get complete SB much less than you (but the Swedes love position.)

    As Wota says. Play to 30k. Try to maintain it.

    Personally I raise a lot more late - and less early. I'm defending blinds about the same as you but my VPIP is around 19.

    post some of the stats from "Detail" lets have a look...
    See me playing $10/$20NL like it was play money

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    as a caveat to that - at Ladbrookes no-one has a clue how to play poker.. so maybe its ok
    See me playing $10/$20NL like it was play money

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    seems like you are way too loose passive

    nice winrate though

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    Very nice win-rate but you have to up your aggression A TON.

    Go over to CR and watch Brian's new 2-4 video. He does a PT discussion at the end of the video and talks about ideal stats. Your sub-2 aggression numbers, according to Brian (sbrugby), are not to be feared at all.
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    Very nice win-rate but you have to up your aggression A TON.

    Go over to CR and watch Brian's new 2-4 video. He does a PT discussion at the end of the video and talks about ideal stats. Your sub-2 aggression numbers, according to Brian (sbrugby), are not to be feared at all.
    I don't think he does need to loosen up in these games if he maintains even half this winrate. If people are going to flat call your PF raises with a wide range of hands and rarely 3bet and also play passively postflop it can be tough to know where you are.

    Also if they are willing to pay off with any top pair even in an unraised pot and not too observant regarding how often you raise etc. there is really no need to be LAG.

    Alot of the idea behind LAG is getting paid off on your monsters. If you could play 1/1 and still have people pay you off with any piece of the flop then the optimal way to play poker would be to play as many tables as you can fit on your screen and wait for AA/KK on each one.

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    i would say that ur playing too passively, pre and postflop.. but ur winrate is friggen amazing, so imo, keep playing the way u are playing and dont change anything... because the way u are playing is probably a very optimal way of playing vs the opponents ur up against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse86 View Post
    i would say that ur playing too passively, pre and postflop.. but ur winrate is friggen amazing, so imo, keep playing the way u are playing and dont change anything... because the way u are playing is probably a very optimal way of playing vs the opponents ur up against.
    or alternatively, he is running good for 10k hands

    not to try to bring u down or anything, obv if this keeps up then don't change a thing.

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