here is some good advice imo for playing in middle stakes nl live games which are in generally, pretty soft and loose. i do NOT play this way online, at ALL. which you do know if you watched my video.

I play in a game in which i am a regular. i play there alot, and people usually see me with chips in front of me. im a young kid. im loud, annoying, and people know me, and again, i have alot of chips usually, and this really pisses off older players. am i proud of it? i dunno, maybe, but thats not the point. the point is, there are pretty much 2 types of players in the game.

weak tight kids who really respect my game, and loose bad players(some kids, some old, just be observant) who see my show down the nuts every hand and still call me down.

i am now going to explain why i find there is value in limping in with every suited connector and implied odds hand, no matter my position, and as long as i have at least 200 and so does everyone else.

i limp in alot in this game, and its not because im a loose fish. its because with these 2 types of players, suited connecters are really, really, really powerful hands. why?

the loose/bad players dont like to fold. we all know that. if i flop a huge hand like 2 pair, i can generally get paid off by them(i think its because im a young kid and us youngsters really like to bluff, or something). however, i wont do this enough to get paid off if the table was all weak tight players. however, the suited connector is good against them too, because if i flop any sort of draw, or equally strong semibluffing hand, i can represent a set and unless they can beat a set or come close then generally give me credit and i take the pot. and it works the other way too when you can cooler people. this makes you very hard to read because now not only are you showing down 2 pair and trips, you are showing down a 4 high flush draw after limping in and calling a raise with 42 of clubs, and you are playing it exactly the same way.
(however, in no limit, it is perfectly acceptable to limp in and then fold to a raise. if i limp in with 56s and the button raises and its folded back to me, there is nothing wrong with folding unless i really really think im getting paid off. i like to still keep in my mind my position when playing to a raise. if its folded to the CO and he raises and i have a suited connector, i generally can fold because its a small pot and im oop. i like to see the flop with these hands in multiway pots, so the dead money in the pot outweighs the fact that im calling a raise with junk and im out of position. also, the semibluff works alot better in raised pots, because people generally think they have reason to bet their nothing hands to steal the pot, middle pairs to "find out where they are at", and unfortunately bet their good hands. but in these games people dont generally bet when they flop huge hands like sets, even though they really really should when they are in position and when they raise preflop, oop, this will give you free cards and get people mad at you when you crack top set with a turned flush.
and still raise your strong hands preflop for value against the donks, but sometimes you also have to raise the semi bluffing hands, again, just to randomize your strategy so you cant always be put on a specific range of raising hands by the better players based on your position. dont do this alot though because live u tend to get called alot in this specific sort of table im talking about, and u shouldnt be making continuation bets against lots of players, because they dont like to fold. but sometimes you have to raise and if its heads up or 3way bet, just to again, randomize your strategy.


this has been working for me for a really long time, hope it helps.

Last night I ran into a weaktight player who was completely incapable of laying anything down. He spent the better part of an hour complaining about how the table was full of donks and how he can't wait to take our money once he gets a big hand and

On this one particular hand I was on the button with 78os. 4-5 people limped in front of me so I limped as well. The weaktight villain raised it to $4.50 from the SB and everyone folded around to me. My instinct was to go for the fold button but the pot size suddenly caught my eye and I quickly realised that I was already getting over 2 to 1 on my money. That plus the fact that I was pretty sure my implied odds were huge (we both had about $100 in front of us) convinced me to call.

I picked up an OESD on the flop and made the straight on the turn. The villain bet the flop and turn, called a big raise on the turn and we got it all in on the river. Of course I cracked his aces and wound up spending the next 30 mins listening to how big of a donk I was.

Originally Posted by the alex

Great post.

You should seriously learn PLO. There's too much dead money in that game postflop to ignore online. A couple of hours a night could freeroll some rigged 180-man's.

too many cards, never know what i fuckin have

Originally Posted by tightagressive

here is some good advice imo for playing in middle stakes nl live games which are in generally, pretty soft and loose. i do NOT play this way online, at ALL. which you do know if you watched my video.

I haven't watched your video, where is it?

Originally Posted by lairyboy

I haven't watched your video, where is it?

it was posted in one of the strategy areas, look around for it. however there is like no bandwidth, but maybe there is more for december. use the search feature? i dunno where it is

Originally Posted by lairyboy

I haven't watched your video, where is it?

http://www.screencast.com/users/wes/...7-9ee71a14aabf

not sure if it works anymore