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    Super Moderator WotaWaster's Avatar
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    Default Limp-Calling raise with AQ

    I saw TA's thread where someone limp-called his raise with AQo and am seeing it happen a lot. This is a really bad play right? But I am losing so much money recently to people who will limp-call a raise with AQ.

    E.g.

    I was playing a 9 handed game live in London with 50p/£1 blinds and £100 max buy in.

    UTG says without looking at his cards - I min raise to £2 (he hadn't looked i watched him because he said he was going to do it before deal)

    UTG+1 says fuck it I call without looking then.

    Button - LOOKS and CALLS

    I am on SB with KQs. I think raising here is the correct play right against 2 blind hands and a guy who has just limped on the button vs these 2 blind hands.

    UTG calls and button also calls so its 3 to the flop and they both have around 50 left with me covering both.

    Flop comes down 9 3 2 or something rainbow.

    I lead out with a 2/3 ps bet.
    UTG thinks and pushes all in (he has 9K).
    Button calls all in with AQ.

    OK he loses here but if UTG folds he probably flat calls my bet, checks to river and wins with AQ high vs my KQ high.

    Reassure me that limp-calling with AQ is poor play at 9 handed game.

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    Limp calling with any hand vs 2 opponents on a 9 handed table is poor play in my opinion, not just AQ.

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    if a hand is good enough to be played at all it should be good enough to come in with a raise... limping with AQ is just total bullshit that people get away with far too often (yes i do it once in a while... but only in heads-up play.. and thats different)
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    "If your hand is worth calling that much, it should've been raised that much."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen-Jen The Enjen View Post
    "If your hand is worth calling that much, it should've been raised that much."
    Hmmm....that sounds familiar...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRE8R View Post
    Hmmm....that sounds familiar...
    I think she's mocking me more than "relaying any sort of wisdom."
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    I do it pretty often in the early levels of a tournament. Cash game's different. Though, out of the SB, I may limp through as well and hope to catch a Q high flop and get a big pot post-flop.
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    Default button smooth call w/ aqo

    now, let me get this straight. two players (UTG and UTG+1) go in for 2x preflop blind. button looks and smooth calls the min raise. you see your cards and raise how much? well, we dont know how much you raised. UTG is feeling frisky obviously and probably wouldnt fold anything there, i guess depending on your raise, which we still dont know. UTG+1 folds. button calls your raise. 932 "or something" flop and you continue your play with 2/3rds. UTG, who was feeling frisky, goes all in. button smooth calls the all in. you, begrudgingly, fold. aq loses to k9. this sounds pretty standard to me and you had the information to fold. are you mad at the aq guy? personally, i find kqs in the small blind to be a mixed blessing. it is a pretty decent hand against two players in the pot blind, but preferably in position. i would have taken the cheap flop and hoped to have something post flop in order to punish this frisky little UTG player. and, you really dont know why the button smooth called. he may be trying to lure this guy in. well then, perhaps it was astute to raise preflop in this case to see where you hand stood, but you have nothing to be upset about, the frisky guy recklessly went all in w/ 9's and the aq limper idiot called an all in w/ over cards.

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    I think I raised it to about £16. I am not upset about the guy with AQ, I just think he played abysmally and it struck me that had the K9 guy folded he would have probably called my flop bet, wed have checked it down and he'd have won with AQ high. He would have played very poor poker (unless he had a read I was a total maniac, which I wasnt - I wouldn't raise KQ here unless there was so much dead money in the pot), yet wion the hand.

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    If you limp with AQ, you can obv get raised by hands that you beat, such as AJ, KJ, KQ etc.

    Especially if you happen to be in position (blinds raise), it might not be a terrible play.

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