IF any one Knows how to CONVERT UB and FT hands please tell


Dont really know anything about the BTN. He is not the weakest or Tightest player. Prolly a losing player, but very close to break even. - my assesment from the 15 hands I'v seen him play.

My image is TAG.

Hand #37040565-27129 at Markham (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 03/Dec/06 20:03:14

wainey05 is at seat 0 with $53.25.
gder03 is at seat 1 with $48.40.
JMRWINS is at seat 2 with $28.05 (sitting out).
uYNamron is at seat 3 with $49.95.
No Choice is at seat 4 with $50.
J B QUICK is at seat 5 with $39.90 (sitting out).
The button is at seat 0.

gder03 posts the small blind of $.25.
uYNamron posts the big blind of $.50.


gder03: 7h Kh


Pre-flop:

No Choice folds. wainey05 calls. gder03 calls.
uYNamron checks.

Flop (board: 7c 2d 9h):

gder03 checks. uYNamron checks. wainey05 bets
$1.50. gder03 calls. uYNamron folds.

good call? bad call?

Turn (board: 7c 2d 9h 2h):

gder03 ???

I like the flop call. You could very well have the best hand and he'll float if you raise, making a raise nothing more than a pot-builder.

You can check-raise the turn. He'll probably hit the pot button for $4.50. You can raise to $11 and get the job done. He can't call with a hand you beat, but it saves you from a tough river decision. You can check/call and just hand him the noose. If he bets behind on the river, it'll probably be cheap. You can lead for $3 and see where you stand cheaply and he'll make a bad call with any straight draw that he could check behind.

I like a CR because you get the most value from a straight draw that he'll check behind when he misses the river thinking he can't bluff you off a 9.

bisonbison was what I used to use for UB conversions before, but no more bison. Neidlewurst supports FTP and says they support UB, but it never works for me. I keep meaning to email the admin, but I'm a lazy bitch.

flop, im betting half the pot. then if im flat called im betting 3/4 to full pot in the turn. Its alot better to be the agressor and to do the betting urself here, cuz check-callin aint gonna get u any info. By betting u also take the lead, and therefore if called, you can put ur opponent on a draw and if that draw misses, you can lead out for a pot bet on the turn and take it down like 90% of the time.


As played, I would now lead out for 3/4 to full pot on the turn.

Originally Posted by Eclipse86

flop, im betting half the pot. then if im flat called im betting 3/4 to full pot in the turn.


As played, I would now lead out for 3/4 to full pot on the turn.

What is he calling that we beat, Eclipse?

Originally Posted by the alex

What is he calling that we beat, Eclipse?

the straight draw.

the main reason why betting out is good is because given the circumstances here villian would have bet that flop with any 2 cards. Because of this fact, if u bet the turn, he is folding over 50% of the time, you also take control of the hand kinda like a stop and go type of play. There is really no reason to think your behind here, because of the fact that villian could be potting the flop with any 2.

But however, like i said before, i dont really like the check-call on the flop. I'd much rather prefer to lead out instead, cuz it makes the turn more easier to play. If u where planning on check-callin there, u should lead out urself imo. Cuz now, leading into the flop bettor is kinda iffy, for lack of a better term to describe it.

It also works, because u have a ton of outs, and your bet looks as if ur representing a 2. Basically the reasoning is that by betting, you either take it down now, or win a bigger pot on the turn if u hit. IMO, it works better then cr-ing cuz u get the same amount of fold equity out of ur opponent without the risk of having to build the pot that big OOP. For example, if u cr and villian calls, you will have a tough time playing the river. However, if u lead out on the turn, and he calls, and u dont make ur flush, 2 pair, or 7s full.. Then it is a relatively easy check-fold cuz u dont have that much invested.

He could bet the turn with complete air when we check, though. He's bad.

Arright, well, it gets uglier; I really don't like the position I put myself with the check/call. I dislike reacting to ppl's bets, yet I still check/called.

If this happened 20 hands ago, when I was on a 40bb upswing, I would have played it differently, but the last 20 hands have messed w/ my confidence, and I was on a 50bb downswing. Regardless, the turn play I make is prolly worts possible out of any.

Turn (board: 7c 2d 9h 2h)

gder03 checks. wainey05 bets $4.50. gder03 calls.


River (board: 7c 2d 9h 2h 6d):

gder03 ???

BTW, thanks mike.