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    Default Low pocket pairs - what to do?

    Hi,

    Was just wondering what your strategy is when you are dealt a low pocket pair? ( | | etc ). I believe if you play it through you have a 20% chance of catching your set.

    My old style, i used to play this hand extremely aggressively, betting preflop to eliminate limpers, and then betting again on the flop regardless of what comes up. I have found this to be effective at times:

    - Preflop bet makes others think i have a strong hand (AK, AQ, etc) And another bet on the flop will sometimes scare them off. Furthermore, if there is anyone who calls, and i happen to catch the trips, then i have them trapped.

    On the other hand however, i find this play to be devastating when either your opponent catches any decent hand and you do not catch your trips - so i dont think this is the best way to play it.

    What do you think?

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    If you don't know what to do you shouldn't play the hand at all. A lot of "Pro's" suggest not playing any pair below 5s in ring games.
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    it is called "set it or forget it"

    If you can limp in in late position, fine, but if you don't hit a set on the flop, do not call any more bets (unless you have some straight draw too)

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    In a lot of tables, its worth a limp from any position.
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    they are unprofitable short handed, especially if you get stuck calling a raise.

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    Agreed, but in most tables, the more loose-passive the better, they are worth limping from most positions.
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    Bonch, I sorta agree.

    But a new or even intermediate player will lose money with 22-44 from anywhere but the cut off or the button.

    I've also seen stats of winning players who have a -EV with these hands from anywhere but the blinds.

    in regards to limit of course!!!
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    yep - agreed.

    I think it is better to have a few limping into the pot than expect that more will limp behind you - everytime they don't it is a -EV play.

    In NL, you can call a small raise if you both have good stack. Classic hand is AK vs 44 or 55 and the flop is A 5 4 or something. You can usually get all of the AKs chips.

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    Thanks for the input. In a head to head match, its a whole different story. I believe the odds are almost even (the pocket pair has a slight advantage) correct?

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    Uh, vs 2 overcards you're at a slight advantage preflop, but its tough to play postflop.
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