You chased. I think it's fine to draw to a draw, however usually you need very good implied odds.


Did you think about reverse-implied odds here? Even when you hit your best card(Jh) you still have to face another bet and possible reraise/allin. I think that's why this is such a risky play, but risky plays normally pay off big

Goose, this was limit. Sorry. I don't play NL much in ring.

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Nice hand.

Other things you should be considering before you call the flop:

Type of player that the EP limper is (specifically, is he capable of a check-raise here? How often would he check-raise here / What kind of hand would he check-raise here?)
How you will play if the PF raiser bets again on the turn and a T/8 comes.

SteveY, I didnt know anything since I just sat down.

To your second point, that is why I was discounting the pair outs.


Great points.

Originally Posted by Beavis68

To your second point, that is why I was discounting the pair outs.

I wasn't focusing as much on discounting outs. I was actually asking how you would play if a T or 8 come. Like if the turn is a 7, your hand is pretty easy to play. if it's a J/Q, then it's easy to play. If it's a heart, then it's easy to play. The only cards that actually make you think is the T or an 8, so it's nice if you can set up a general plan in the case that a T or 8 falls. I try to think ahead like this when I have time, but it can get pretty difficult. Plus I can get lazy. :/

that would just be a call down, I would still have a few outs to improve on the river, and by the river it would be worth a call in case he has AK or AQ or some random bizarro hand (never know I had a guy check-raise bluff me with K8o on a board of J 6 4 2).

Awesome