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View Poll Results: What do you do?

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  • OMG JJ all-in!

    11 39.29%
  • Call, JJ is a good hand and the CL could be bluffing

    10 35.71%
  • Fold, you are OOP, UTG limper is raised, and small stack

    7 25.00%
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  1. #1
    Daniel Negreanu
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    Default You Decide - with poll

    Steve Terry and I have been arguing about this on PokerPages - this is not my hand, it was from someone else.

    $50 Buy in NL Holdem Live
    About 1000 Rebuys and Add ons. 1st hand after all that mess is over. Blinds 200/400 I've got slightly above average stack w/ about 5200+/- 9 at the table

    Player is in BB get JsJd,
    utg calls, and 2 more players call
    Chip leader raises to 1000
    All fold to you in the BB.

    1st limper was new to the table, second couldn't even figure out when he had to post the blinds, 3rd limper has been around for maybe 10 hands but loves to see a flop cheap and has played a few questionable hands, raiser is a pretty good player who will raise to eliminate weaker hands that could draw him out.

    what do you do?
    Last edited by Beavis68; January 26th, 2005 at 10:46 AM.

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    meh, so what if its 20% of your stack. You will probably pick up enough callers to justify with the implied odds.

    Take the flop and play it from there. If the CL is as aggresive as you imply, then you may be able to win a good pot with a non-overcard flop
    Last edited by Marm; January 26th, 2005 at 10:06 AM.
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    Well you can't call here for set value obviously, so it depends on how the CL has been playing, I'm leaning towards fold with 2 limpers though. How would you play this if it was T-T? Definate fold right? Is JJ that much better? I'm pushing QQ and AKs here folding anything else.

    A call seems terrible here, if any overcard falls, you will have a tough time calling a bet, the only situation where you like is if 3 rags or a jack falls, if 3 rags fall you are either losing it all or winnin a small pot

    FOLD>PUSH>CALL
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    Daniel Negreanu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    meh, so what if its 20% of your stack. You will probably pick up enough callers to justify with the implied odds.

    Take the flop and play it from there. If the CL is as aggresive as you imply, then you may be able to win a good pot with a non-overcard flop
    Marm, everyone folded to you the UTG limper is the only person left to act. And you will have to act first on the flop.

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    Actually there are 3 limpers left to act...
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    Yep, I reformated the text a bit, it had ME confused. I miss read what marm meant too.

    that is also a negative though, one of them could suddenly come alive and push too.

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    im interested to know what happened
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    Crap I posted in the other thread, but I said that you can't call, so it is eitehr fold or push, and I leant toward folding.

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    flip a coin... if its heads go allin if its tails fold
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    there is only one WRONG answer to this poll, and thats to call.. its an allin or fold situation
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