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    Default Define Loose Aggro in a 10 player Cash Game

    Ok, lately im just wondering.. whats the difference between how a loose aggro would play in a 10max cash game, compared to a tight, aggro..

    for example.. what hands would a loose aggro raise with in LP, that a tight aggro wouldn't? or list some examples of what a loose aggro would do with certain cards in a certain situation that a tight aggro wouldnt?

    anyone who plays a successfull loose-aggro game (particularly 10max) wanna give me some input?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse86 View Post
    Ok, lately im just wondering.. whats the difference between how a loose aggro would play in a 10max cash game, compared to a tight, aggro..

    for example.. what hands would a loose aggro raise with in LP, that a tight aggro wouldn't? or list some examples of what a loose aggro would do with certain cards in a certain situation that a tight aggro wouldnt?

    anyone who plays a successfull loose-aggro game (particularly 10max) wanna give me some input?
    What exactly is loose/tight for you? (in %)

    I found the really tight players (10% and below) dont raise/steal from LP, except with their regular range of hands (high PPs, AK etc) of course.

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    I raise any 2 from the button, if it is folded to me, and blinds are tight. But I'm not playing loose-aggro, I never play more than 25% of hands.

    On Party I think tight-aggro works best. I haven't played the high stakes games but the low-medium stakes have so many fish that loose-aggro seems -EV to me, unless you have great reads on your opponents.
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    To me I would say that preflop a LAG player would be raising or even reraising a lot more hands like suited connectors or medium pocket pairs in position.

    E.g:

    If you have an average cash game, there has been 2 MP limps and you are on the button with 77, I think a TAG player is more likely to see good pot odds and play for trips whilst a LAG player will consider raising to punish the limpers and hope to take the pot down there, whilst being willing to fire a bet on any flop if he does get only 1-2 calls and is checked too.

    Hands a LAG may raise from CO/button (either if it folded or there is 1 MP-LP limp) can include:

    45s+, 46s+
    22+
    Axs
    78o-QKo

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaFish View Post
    What exactly is loose/tight for you? (in %)

    I found the really tight players (10% and below) dont raise/steal from LP, except with their regular range of hands (high PPs, AK etc) of course.
    Id say 15-20% is considered tight, 20-30% loose, and anything 14% or under is uber tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WotaWaster View Post

    Hands a LAG may raise from CO/button (either if it folded or there is 1 MP-LP limp) can include:

    45s+, 46s+
    22+
    Axs
    78o-QKo
    so a lag would only differ from a tag in terms of LP raising requirements?
    for example, would a lag raise certain hands in EP or MP, that a tag wouldn't?

    for example, open raising KJs, QTs, 78s, or other sc's in EP? would a LAG be into that sort of thing as well?


    also another question, what exactly is that spot beside the CO called (the one that isnt the button)? is that considered LP or MP in a 10max cash game?
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    You'll get more double barreling from a LAG in position heads-up after the flop. There are more multiway pots in lo-stakes full ring because people limp so much that a LAG will not raise more hands in position, but limp more in position to take stabs at pots in position to a lot of flops that'll miss the weak-tighties that play full-ring. Those are cheap stabs in relation to the pot, too because a 4-way unraised pot in a $50 game could have $2.25 in it. Checked to a LAG in late position, he can take the pot enough with $1.35-$1.60 for those bets to be profitable- especially when they picked up a draw.

    I'd say that a lot of "TAGs" are really weak in full ring because they tend to be overprotective of their hands to the point where they bet so big that they're only getting action when they're beat. TAG's tend to get married to starting hands waaaay too much. Implied odds are their worst enemy instead of their best friend.
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