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    Default Pocket pair and a pair on board

    here are 2 similar hands from a 0.01/0.02 NL ring session where i have PP and am unsure how to react to a paired board.

    Hand 1 i have 88 2 limp in front of me and i call, 8 players see the flop for 2c

    Flop 9s 9h Ac

    it checks around to dealer who bets 10c into a 16c pot (dealer is a non maniac player who does not bet without a hand) i think he most likely has an ace for a higher 2 pair. i am unsure what to do and call just before i time out.

    Turn 5s

    i check dealer bets 22c, i decide i am behind and fold not wanting to throw good money after bad.

    how would people act in theese situations?

    Hand 2 (a few hands later)

    i am UTG and limp with 88, 2 players call, button min raises. 6 players see the flop for 4c.

    Flop is Kh Kd 2C

    SB checks BB min bets, i call, fold, call, call, SB folds.

    Turn 5d

    checks around

    River 7c

    BB min bets, i call, fold call, i win BB shows A6

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    At these limits fold hand 1 and I think #2 you can call with for a 2 outter, on the riverif he min bets I call.
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    These are two very different situations and should be played as such.

    Hand 1 -- Your pair is lower than both the pair on the board AND the non-paired card. Five possible cards (2 9's and 3 A's ) have you already chasing badly and drawing to, at best 2 outs. You could even be drawing dead already as A9 is not an unheard of holding for folks to play. Considering there's seven other people in the hand, the odds of at least one of these five cards being in play are significant. You should not pay one cent more to continue in this hand.

    Hand 2 -- Here the situation is very different as your pocket pair is higher than the non-paired card on the board. Only 2 cards have you hopelessly chasing and the odds of someone holding a K-2 to leave you drawing dead are slim. You can bet/raise here to try and discern where you are in relation to the field. If you encounter too much resistance, shut down. If others seem meek, you can continue to press and try to pick up the pot.
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