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  1. #1
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    Default How'd I do here?

    Okay - give it to me straight. How'd I play this hand?

    bluntsmoker is at seat 0 with $31.20.
    alm2005 is at seat 1 with $11.50 (sitting out).
    zipser is at seat 2 with $6.85.
    crzyjed1 is at seat 3 with $13.90.
    pwilli61 is at seat 4 with $12.30.
    dreadchef is at seat 5 with $13.77.
    Cornier is at seat 6 with $24.15.
    Girevik is at seat 7 with $24.05.
    superstarpebs is at seat 8 with $22.95.
    shooter626 is at seat 9 with $9.10.
    The button is at seat 7.

    superstarpebs posts the small blind of $.10.
    shooter626 posts the big blind of $.25.
    pwilli61 posts out of turn for $.35($.10 dead
    blind).

    bluntsmoker: -- --
    zipser: -- --
    crzyjed1: -- --
    pwilli61: -- --
    dreadchef: -- --
    Cornier: -- --
    Girevik: Qc Tc
    superstarpebs: -- --
    shooter626: -- --

    Pre-flop:

    bluntsmoker folds. zipser calls.
    crzyjed1 folds.
    pwilli61 checks. dreadchef folds.
    Cornier calls.
    Girevik calls. superstarpebs calls.
    shooter626
    checks.

    Flop (board: 3h Qs Kh):

    superstarpebs bets $.25. shooter626 folds.
    zipser
    calls. pwilli61 folds. Cornier folds.
    Girevik
    raises to $1. superstarpebs calls.
    zipser calls.

    The king was a scare card here, but I couldn't see a min raise with top pair - figured he'd either slow play with a check-call or bet more. So I rised to see where I was, thinking that if he had K's he'd reraise

    Turn (board: 3h Qs Kh Jd):

    superstarpebs checks. zipser checks.
    Girevik bets
    $2. superstarpebs folds. zipser calls.

    This is the street I'm wondering about - did I bet enough here?

    River (board: 3h Qs Kh Jd 6h):

    zipser goes all-in for $3.60. Girevik
    calls.

    I really didn't think he had the king, but should I have folded here given the flush possibility?



    Showdown:

    zipser shows Ts JavaScript.
    zipser has Ts JavaScript Qs Kh Jd: a pair of jacks.
    Girevik shows Qc Tc.
    Girevik has Qc Tc Qs Kh Jd: a pair of queens.


    Hand #4061457-4391 Summary:

    $.75 is raked from a pot of $15.80.
    Girevik wins $15.05 with a pair of queens.

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    Yea u did the right thing to me!


    But ive also wuldve gone all in
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    Good call. If he had the kings he probably would have shown himself by now. The flush isn't a big worry and it's possible he's trying to represent it to bluff you out. $3.60 to win over $12 is a good bet here - you've got better than the 30% chance to win this pot that is needed to make the call pay for you.

    The guy is all in already so wouldn't make much sense to go all in over the top Besides, there's a realistic chance that he's got you beat, and if you go over the top, the only way you'll get a call is if he's got you beat.

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    i would have played the hand differently and probably not played to a showdown. however i am relatively new to NL ring and others may disagree with what i say (hope i read the question right).

    on the flop there is around 1.70 in the pot, one over card and many draws (hearts, JT, AJ, AT), one player bets 0.25 and the other calls the pot is now 2.2 if you are confident in your read then i would bet more than 1$. your bet makes the pot 3.2 and the sb has odds of over 3:1 to draw to a hand, when he calls zipser has to call 1$ into a $4.2 pot this is enough to draw to a open ended straight or a flush. one of the players may have a draw with an overcard etc. also a limper may have Kx etc and be ahead.

    on the turn one of the players may have hit a straight, althouh i would rule out that possibility when he does not check raise.

    the river is a big scare card i would think i am behind at this point, there are drawing hands that can beat you that would not have raised pre flop. i may well call the extra 3.6 as the pot is pretty big you dont want to risk folding a losing hand here.

    that is what i would have been thinking and how i would have played the hand, but you seem to have had a read and went with it and it paid off. perhaps you saw some stuff before this hand that made you feel you were ahead so nice hand!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poker player 100
    But ive also wuldve gone all in
    What KC said - the guy was ALREADY all-in. It was either call or fold.

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    LoL...I would have assumed the check raising would have been the betting of choice with top pair, at least that's how I would do it. I would have folded Gir, I personally would not have liked seeing that K make my Q a mid pair...

    I would have folded based on the flush draw though...LoL...but the K's always scare me for some reason, I lose to those K's a lot.

    Great Job nonetheless...
    Quote Originally Posted by poker player 100 View Post
    However the players there are tight and just the flops are hit or miss IMO.

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    of course you did well here, the question is how often you make moves like this and are wrong.

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    Reverse implied odds in effect here. I'm check/ calling the flop, check folding the turn uimproved(in this case I improve though) I might raise fourth if I make a straight draw and will raise if I make 2 pair.
    “There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann

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    Yea, there may be some bias here because of the results.

    Flop: That is a good-size raise I think. This gets some information. I think if the guy had the kind, he re-raises.
    Turn: Bet the pot and try to take it right here. Flush draw on the board, and three to the straight.
    River: Too be honest, it looked like the other guy had a flush draw, possibly AXs. I would probably fold here. It's the first time he showed strength.

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    A weak king is not re-raising here, espeically at this limit.
    “There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann

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