Position...whats the big deal?

**DMpokah** · 09-13-2006

i hear all this talk that location is so important to betting strategy...i feel that whether im sitting UTG or at the bb i think i will still bet a certain way given my pocket cards and the flop, along with the way other people bet and so on...is this theory strictly for pre-flop betting, or am i missing something? please shed some light on this topic for me

**SeanyBullets1** · 09-13-2006

Not a huge difference between BB and UTG. The difference rests with the cut-off and the button. Allows you to act everyone else thus make your decision based on how the hand is being played out.

**gder03** · 09-13-2006

how about i play you 1,000 hands heads up where you are the bb and im the SB evrey hand.

then we switch, and your SB and im BB.

then you will understand position

**trippedupA-Town** · 09-13-2006

Originally Posted by gder03

how about i play you 1,000 hands heads up where you are the bb and im the SB evrey hand.

then we switch, and your SB and im BB.

then you will understand position

lolz

**Porg** · 09-14-2006

Poker is really a game of information. Imagine two equally good players playing, would the guy with the most information win or would the guy with the least information win?

**Mr.McJ** · 09-14-2006

I can understands DMpokah's point, it took me a little while to really understand the value of position. I finally had an "A-HA!" moment when I realised how much easier it is to play a set in position than it is to play out of position. It becomes really hard to extract value in this situation.

Should you bet right out or check to your opponent?
Is he going to bet if you check to him?
If he does bet, should you check raise now?
If you do check raise now, are you going to be giving away too much information about the strength of your hand?
Will he call a check raise?
If you flat call him, will he bet the turn again?

**the alex** · 09-14-2006

I've played about 11 hours straight. I will rip this thread a new one tomorrow afternoon.

**DMpokah** · 09-14-2006

knowledge is power baby give it to me

**MTdemocrat** · 09-14-2006

Originally Posted by the alex

I've played about 11 hours straight. I will rip this thread a new one tomorrow afternoon.

11 hrs thats it? Your getting soft in your old age.

back on topic though, I can't wait to see your reply.

**Mr.McJ** · 09-14-2006

How important can position be?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG (t2505)
MP1 (t900)
MP2 (t4215)
Hero (t1375)
Button (t1415)
SB (t1470)
BB (t1620)

Preflop: Hero is CO with

,

.
UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, 1 fold, Hero calls t30, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150)

,

(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets t90, Hero calls t90, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (t330)

(2 players)
MP1 bets t180, Hero calls t180.

River: (t690)

(2 players)
MP1 bets t600 (All-In), Hero calls t600.

Final Pot: t1890

Results in white below:
MP1 has Ts Jc (flush, ten high).
Hero has 7h As (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins t1890.

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