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    Default Rebuys Strat, revisted

    OK, forms of this question have been asked, very recently. But again, I want advice from all angles here.

    On Saturday I'm playing in a NLHE rebuiy event. Girevik, if you show, you'll recognize me from my avatar . But anyways, its a $50 buy-in, max of 3 $25 rebuys. 200TC to start, 1/2 blinds, 15 minute intervals, singel rebuy after one hour if you havent used up all 3 rebuys. Its going to be filled mainly with (I assume, and that can be lethal here) with redneck locals who probably have seen one too many WPT shows. 4-8 pay, probably 100 entrants

    Advice?
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    Just Git R' Done
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    ok but seriously i've never played a rebuy in my life so i got nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    OK, forms of this question have been asked, very recently. But again, I want advice from all angles here.

    On Saturday I'm playing in a NLHE rebuiy event.
    Saturday? Don't you know the White Death is comming and we're all going to buried under mountains of snow on Saturday? Oh, the humanity!!

    Actually, even if I do feel like driving on the snowy roads tomorrow, my day is looking pretty booked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZooM
    Just Git R' Done
    And here I thought this ^^^ was my quote...hehe...


    I experimented a couple times last week Marm, one tournament I won with rebuying immediately after posting blinds to bully the pot. The other I didn't and I waited too long until I was out of chips, and placed 3rd.

    I've only lately been rebuying after blinds are placed, or I drop 20% of my stack. I would prolly do the same if there were 100 entrants...
    Quote Originally Posted by poker player 100 View Post
    However the players there are tight and just the flops are hit or miss IMO.

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    Marm... I have a couple of observations based upon my experience in the rebuy tournament that I played this past week. I hope these comments are helpful.

    First, the structure of the tournament that you are going to play in is very different than the one I just played in. You're starting out with 100 big bets, whereas we started out with only 40 big bets. In addition, our blinds doubled every 20 minutes, so that after only 40 minutes of play, the big blind in my game was already 10 percent of the starting chip stack size.

    Those circumstances caused me to tighten up considerably during the first hour, which was the rebuy period, because to play any hand was expensive. In your case, you are going to have more flexibility in the first hour because of the relationship between the blinds and the starting chip stack size. Accordingly, the adjustment that I would make is to see some cheap flops with some speculative starting hands (like mid-suited connectors, small pairs, or Ax suited) that will pay off big if you hit them.

    The second observation that I'll make concerns play in the later stages of the tournament if you do not have a big chip stack. I stuck to my starting hand requirements until my chip stack reached a critical level. The critical level for me was when I realistically had to be in all-in or fold mode because the blinds were such that any entry into a pot would leave me seriously chip-challenged if I abandoned the hand.

    At that point, I began to look for hands where I could move in before the flop with an appropriate hand and in an appropriate position. Putting big hands aside (like AA, KK, and maybe even AK) where I might move in from any position, what I wanted was (1) for my position to be somewhere between the cutoff and the big blind; (2) for the pot to be unopened or to have no more than 1 limper when the action got to me; and (3) for my hand to be either a pocket pair or AT or better. My chip stack size was important because I wanted to put people to a meaningful decision as to whether to play with me. My position was important because, if I got called, I wanted to be heads up at worst (and the best way to control that was to know how many people were left to act). My card selection was important because I wanted to have some chance to win a race if that's what happened.

    I probably got lucky, but this strategy worked out well for me. There were other players who waited until they were almost blinded out to go all in, and when they did, they drew 2 or more callers from the bigger stacks. That was bad news regardless of what hand they showed. I saw one guy who had AA get busted in a 3-way flop where somewhere made a backdoor straight. I saw another get busted with 77 in a 3-way because he was up against 4 overcards instead of only two.

    Obviously, if you have a big stack later in the game, you can see more flops, but more importantly, you can be much more aggressive. Also, my game got extremely tight once we were down to two tables. People who came in for a raise often took an uncontested pot without a flop. Watch for this phenomena and take advantage of it if you can.

    Good luck and let us know how it goes!

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    Worst Tourney Ever!

    Aside from that, I got 7th out of 70. Yeah, but 5 paid. Good finish eh? Nope, The blinds DOUBLED every 15 minutes, so we were doing something like 640/1280 relatively quickly, Thats right, we were still using $5 chips at 1200 blinds, with the averag stack being about 3500. Oh, and they were only dealing 18 hands/hour. Sucked.

    I probably would won, or at least 3rd, if wasnt for 3 3 outer bad beats.

    Again I'm remebering why I have sworn off charity tournaments, but love charity ring.
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    Oh yeah, and the first thing after they buzz me into the Eagles (yeah, like in rounders) that I hear is

    "Git-r-Done!"
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