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Old 01-19-2005, 01:22 PM
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SnG level 2 (blinds 10/20) (Absolute Poker) (8 handed)

I am under the Gun with Qd Qs I raise to 100, next to act folds, next 2 players call, next folds (disconnected), SB folds, BB calls.

great i wanted to thin the field! should i bet more from early position with QQ?

Flop comes 9c 6c 3h, i think this is a pretty good flop untill BB bets 600 into the pot of slightly over 400, i am now unsure how to play the hand.

what should i do here? (i folded but do not like how i played this hand).
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Old 01-19-2005, 01:33 PM
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Depends how the BB has played previous hands and how high he has valued top pair.

He may have felt he had odds preflop to call with a marginal hand with 3 others already in for another 80 chips, so it's hard to put him on something specific.

He could have anything from TPTK (A9), 2 pair, a set or a flush draw.

I'd need to know your stack sizes to comment further.

Tough decision.
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Old 01-19-2005, 01:38 PM
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Actually looking at it again I'd rule out 2 pair.

And it's an overbet so, he got the 9. Call his ass
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if this is a low buy-in SnG, I would have reluctantly moved-in. He would probably do with with TT and JJ, and maybe even 88 or 77.
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Old 01-19-2005, 01:41 PM
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When I'm playing low stakes sit and go tourneys I only play AA and KK and sometimes QQ and AKs until the 25/50 level. (I do limp from LP with pairs, AXs suited, and suited connectors,in the first 2 levels as well)

When I pick up one of these hands (AA and KK, and sometimes, about 50%, QQ or AKs) I do 1 of 2 things,

#1 I bet my stack regardless of the blinds, you would be amazed how often people call and the hands they call with!

#2 I limp and hope for a raise to reraise all in or if people only call I see the flop cheap, not really what i'm looking for though.

If someone has you beat so be it, move on to the next tourney. if you double up early in one of these your almost guaranteed an in the money finish.
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Old 01-19-2005, 01:52 PM
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Uh you don't really wanna thin the field, you want to force them to make a mistake by calling.

Part #2 fold
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:03 PM
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No, you want to get heads-up or 3-handed, these people will make enough mistakes, you don't want to invite the whole field in. If you don't thin the field a bit you have no idea where you stand.

Steve-O has good ideas too. These idiots will call all-ins with A-7. The blinds will almost never fold for a 3-4xBB raise. You may as well get money in while you are ahead.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:09 PM
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Irexes, I had 1850 BB had 3200 this was early in the game so no real info about how BB has played previous hands and how high he has valued top pair etc.

Beavis yes this is a low buy-in SnG.

after i posted this i remembered the following cardplayer article where the author suggests that in a game where a lot of players call standard pre flop raises you should raise a larger amount than in a tighter game. should i bear this in mind when playing theese low limit SnG's?

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_maga...426&m_id=65551
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:14 PM
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Beavis this was exactly my problem, i have no idea where i stand. BB could have a wide range of hands and if i call there are still 2 to act.

i was not really thinking of calling however, i was thinking either raise or fold.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:16 PM
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Dan Harrington recommends the same thing - that sounds good to me.

Like Bonch said, you do want them to make mistakes, but you may as well get payed the max for the minimum risk.

Spots like this are tough, I would be much more likely to call in an MTT, becaue you are going to play in a full ring longer and you need to steadily get chips to make the money. In these games, you can make the money without winning a hand sometimes.

I don't feel like risking chips early is worth as much - but QQ is a big hand and hard to just drop. I would play it like steve-o, push and double up, or lose and move on the the next.

Girevik and I played one of these yesterday, we both busted out 8th and 7th. It was slow as hell and these two horrible players kept sucking out. We both had each player trapped once and they ended up rivering us.
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