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01-17-2005, 12:16 PM
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change my title babo
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Originally Posted by Beavis68
5 left on played is all-in for 30 chips in the BB,
I had  in the BB.
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Wtf...
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01-17-2005, 12:55 PM
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Wtf...
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So sorry, I was in the SB.
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01-17-2005, 01:03 PM
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I'd bet 400-500 at it and be happy with a call or a fold in response.
A reraise would have me counting the numbers and probably calling.
This is probably the kind of situation where my game has changed the most in the last couple of months. I'm winning more hands on the flop where I'm playing draws reasonably strong (usually with not so many outs as this one ie just OES or nut flush). Previously I'd try to see the turn cheaply and hand the initiative to the other guy. One of the benefits is there is less of a difference between my play on a nut flush draw and a TPTK on the flop (assuming someone is paying attention).
Obviously there's occassions when I've had to walk away to a reraise or made the wrong decision on the turn, and it's dependant on having the chips but the added aggression (albeit fairly restrained) has definately rounded me out as a player.
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01-17-2005, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Beavis68
That is what I am doing on there right now, I used to play 5-30s dollare SnGs on Party and UB, but I just havent been in the mood.
I find that it is pointless to get into to many clashes early in these games, people will call 3-4x raises with Q9s and crap. I just have no idea where I am on the flop. It is pretty much top ten hands only for me, and bet them strongly.
I just can't win though, I have 1 3rd, 1 1st, and a bunch of 2nds.
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i'm finding the SnGs on Absolute poker extreamly irritating i feel i should be able to beat the games (very Loose/Passive) but i can't.
i got a 5th and 2 4ths today. (got disconnects in 2 of these)
i just played a game where a player limped from late pos with AA, flop was rainbow and Ace high so the players checked it down for a cheap showdown. but if i get a hand i like and bet it i run into AA or KK
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01-17-2005, 01:59 PM
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Hmm...I'd prolly go 1/3 of the pot in and call anything up to half the pot, other than that, I understand your feelings based on outs how you played that hand...nuttin to be ashamed of, you had low pair. Honestly without knowing the pot value, I have a tough time gauging the ratios, and what it's worth, but by the sound of it it was a small pot, so it prolly wasn't worth the risk...imo, btw...lOl
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However the players there are tight and just the flops are hit or miss IMO.
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01-17-2005, 02:06 PM
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Damn, I thought I put the pot in there too - what a crappy post I made, pot had about 700. That would have been useful.
Fortunately, the when we made it down to four, the other players went nuts and I took an easy second.
Bobby, I play very few hands in these games, that is why I got so burned out on on SnGs, it is texas fold'em for the first 45min, then just looking for all-in spots.
There is no reason to get agressive with marginal hands like TT or AQ. Like you said, people won't bet their hands, so take cheap draws if you can get them with a lot of caller, but mostly just wait for it to get down to 5 or so before you start really playing.
Here are my stats:
Total Played 14
1st 1
2nd 6
3rd 1
ROI=25%
I think these are right. I should have 2 more 1sts, that would give me a decent ROI, but I just can't seem to get to cards at the right time.
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01-17-2005, 02:19 PM
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*sigh* Beav man, I was runner-up 7 times, 5 of them in a row. Since talking on these forums, I have won 3 times...so I feel your stats man, I really do.
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However the players there are tight and just the flops are hit or miss IMO.
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01-17-2005, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Beavis68
Bobby, I play very few hands in these games, that is why I got so burned out on on SnGs, it is texas fold'em for the first 45min, then just looking for all-in spots.
There is no reason to get agressive with marginal hands like TT or AQ. Like you said, people won't bet their hands, so take cheap draws if you can get them with a lot of caller, but mostly just wait for it to get down to 5 or so before you start really playing.
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Thanks i'll give this a try. what seems to be happening is my stack fluctuates a fair bit (although less than other players). for example i raise 4bbs pre flop with AQ or AJ if i connect with the flop then i can win some chips but if i don't then it dents my stack. i guess i'll tighten up a bit more although i thought i was playing pretty tight/agressive.
Would you recommend not raising preflop with AQ/AJ type of hands? these are the ones which are at the lower end of the hands which i will raise with if there is no preflop raise in the early/mid stages.
also what about TT, JJ and QQ preflop?
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01-17-2005, 02:32 PM
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I agree Beav, my best SnG returns have involved similar levels of folding.
Need to be in the right state of mind though 
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01-17-2005, 02:52 PM
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AQ and AJ only from late position, AQs I will play from more spots, The problem is that I always seem to get 5-6 callers.
QQ, I will bet that like mad before the flop, I would prefer to be all-in.
Can't say I really know a great play for JJ or TT, I like JJ slightly more and always bet it, but I miss my flops mostly, still though, got get your money in when ahead.
TT ugh - this is almost like 88 early position. If it gets folded to me later, I will put in a good raise.
Can't say I have any perfect models, and I have been the first one out a few times.
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