i feel that just calling is weak play, i like to come into the pot raising. say i have KJ in middle position and there has been 2 limpers in the pot, i dont want to be just calling here but i also dont want to raise then get reraised, what do u do. its the same situation for other hands like A10 KQ and so on.

You don't want to call or raise, eh? If only there were some other option. Some way of getting out of the hand without having to invest any money.

yes obviously folding is probably the right play for some of these hands but what about other hands as i mentioned

i don't think limping is weak play. there are advantages to it. firstly you can't become commited to your hand if its not a formidable one. Also you give away no information on what you hold while at the same time not taking the raiser out of the lead so if you do hit the flop he's losing chips (PF intentional limping) sometimes this is done with AA or KK as you well know (traping). by raising it up you encourage re-raises and players always do this with pocket pairs. but saying this it does depend on position also. im not saying limping is superior to raising or anything. i'm just saying limping is not a weak play and it is an important tool in the game of poker!

Originally Posted by the alex

Middle position's tricky with these marginal hands. I will put a small 3-3.5bb raise in to steal the button or fold. You wanna know where you're at if you're gonna play, so you don't lose a lot to King and Jack high flops.

A common trend lately has been people opening the pot early raising with AJ and KQ, but limp/raising or limp/calling with AK and AQ, so you can pick up a read. You don't want the blinds coming in free/too cheap either.

Limping isn't horrible here because you'll force better hands behind you to tell you that you're dominated with big raises, so you can get out before getting in trouble. When there are no raises, you're playing for a big hand (2 pair+) value.

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I think mixing it up is fine.... I will limp or raise about 70%-30% with these hands mp...But it really depends on the table too. Is the table full of loose passive, loose aggressive, tight passive, tight aggresive,

I will tend to raise more often preflop wiht these hands when there are more tight players then loose players.

Because raising with quite a few loose players at the table will not help you with putting people on a range of hands, so I tend to play more of a pot control style.

And on top there is a new wave of players that will flat call with big pp's or AK to you opening bet.

What happens in this situation is .....

You raise preflop , get smoothcalled, flop comes , you continuation bet more often then not, then get reraised...Now what?

You hit you J, well you could be facing an overpair, you hit your K, you could be in kicker trouble, and it now cost you more on you flop bet because of lack of pot control....

So limping is quite ok IMO... GL