Originally Posted by Lamby100

I would think 20-30% ROI is sustainable.

I think this is a good number.

I have'nt played SNG's in quite a while but I had a 21% ROI in the $10 ones at Stars.

Based on hundreds at 11 22 33 and 55 I would say that 10% is ok, 20% good and 25-30% very good indeed. Anything approaching 35% over 500+ is outstanding.

Less than 300 and a decent or poor run can have a very distorting effect on stats.

Originally Posted by Lamby100

Irexes, do you see much difference between the 22s, 33s and 55s?

Yes.

Although obviously any individual one could have the full range of characteristics over a decent sample there is a big difference between the 3 levels.

The $22s don't seem much different from the $10s, there are plenty of fish, some people who don't seem to understand the rules and a lot of kids with big egos talking crap. TPTK has value to stack someone a lot of the time and quite often there will be an idiot with a VPIP of 45%+ in the last three. I play these a bit looser post flop and to be honest if you don't hit a monster early it can be hard to build a stack to get first because the morons will knock each other out and one of them will end up with half the chips by the time you are four handed.

The $55s have fewer complete fish, though they still exist. There are more importantly a lot more tight players who can be pushed off post flop in the right circumstance. There's no point trying to be clever at the $22s and 90% of it is preflop, but at the $55 there's a bit more lattitude to try and outthink players who are trying to outthink you rather than betting with their penises instead of their brains (still 75-25% preflop though). Very few maniacs make the money as the sharks start to circle pretty quickly and kill them off. I think this rewards calculated aggression (not looseness) and suits my preferred strategy a bit better which a I water down a bit an simplify for the $22s. I've done better at the 55s and suffered fewer bad streaks.

The $33 are unsuprisingly a mixture of the two but there are definately more decent players.

Again, the above obviously isn't true of every table you will sit at but I definately approach the levels with slightly different strategy, though it's reads on individual players that define tactics, as ever.


Currently I'm on the $22s again and am close to moving to $33s again. I'm looking forward to the move because the $22s are a bit too mechanical to be a lot of fun (still the main reason I play).

Hope that helps

Originally Posted by Lamby100

Irexes, do you see much difference between the 22s, 33s and 55s?

i play 33's and 22's (i almost have enough on stars to play 33's exclusively, i cant reload otherwise i would just deposit enough. i got 100 from paypal and ive worked it up to a nice lil bankroll)


so i dont know 1st hand, but according to my friend, there is a definant skill jump once you start playing the 55's.

from what ive seen, the 6's and 11's are a joke, up to 33's im not suprised to see a table of fish or a table of players who at least have a little experience.

either way i am a sng champion. ask av8