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Old 01-07-2005, 08:25 PM
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I have a couple of hands of penny PLO that I'd like to ask for some opinions on. Those of you who are familiar with penny-table play style... tell me what you think about these hands...

*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Game #1050918385: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/01/07 - 22:55:58 (ET)
Table 'T #10306122' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: AztecFan ($2.97 in chips)
Seat 3: eclinchy ($4.31 in chips)
Seat 5: B-town Boy ($3.55 in chips)
Seat 6: johnjr67 ($2.67 in chips)
Seat 7: sickman ($1.77 in chips)
Seat 8: steve23hr ($1.55 in chips)
Seat 9: urjelus ($5 in chips)
johnjr67: posts small blind $0.01
sickman: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eclinchy [ ]
steve23hr: calls $0.02
urjelus: raises $0.02 to $0.04
AztecFan: folds
eclinchy: raises $0.13 to $0.17
B-town Boy: calls $0.17
johnjr67: calls $0.16
sickman: folds
steve23hr: calls $0.15
urjelus: calls $0.13
*** FLOP *** [ ]
johnjr67: checks
steve23hr: checks
urjelus: checks
eclinchy: bets $0.87
B-town Boy: folds
johnjr67: folds
steve23hr: folds
urjelus: folds
eclinchy collected $0.87 from pot

Well before the flop, I'm betting the pot, thrilled to be doing so with doublesuited aces. Then, the flop hits, and I STILL have the nuts! I figure it would be too suspicious if I didn't keep representing strength, what with the size of my preflop raise. So I go and bet the pot again, and everyone gets out. Could this hand have been slowed down?

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PokerStars Game #1050895503: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/01/07 - 22:50:46 (ET)
Table 'T #10306122' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: AztecFan ($1.45 in chips)
Seat 3: eclinchy ($5.96 in chips)
Seat 4: craig nz ($0.74 in chips)
Seat 5: B-town Boy ($3.30 in chips)
Seat 6: johnjr67 ($1.96 in chips)
Seat 7: sickman ($2 in chips)
Seat 8: steve23hr ($2 in chips)
Seat 9: urjelus ($4.64 in chips)
AztecFan: posts small blind $0.01
eclinchy: posts big blind $0.02
sickman: posts big blind $0.02
steve23hr: posts small blind $0.01
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eclinchy [ ]
craig nz: calls $0.02
B-town Boy: folds
johnjr67: calls $0.02
sickman: checks
steve23hr: folds
urjelus: raises $0.02 to $0.04
AztecFan: calls $0.03
eclinchy: calls $0.02
craig nz: calls $0.02
johnjr67: calls $0.02
sickman: calls $0.02
*** FLOP *** [ ]
AztecFan: bets $0.02
eclinchy: raises $0.29 to $0.31
craig nz: folds
johnjr67: folds
sickman: folds
urjelus: folds
AztecFan: calls $0.29
*** TURN *** [ ] []
AztecFan: checks
eclinchy: bets $0.87
AztecFan: calls $0.87
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
AztecFan: checks
eclinchy: bets $0.23
AztecFan: calls $0.23 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
eclinchy: shows [ ] (three of a kind, Queens)
AztecFan: shows [ ] (a flush, Queen high)
AztecFan collected $2.97 from pot

Okay... my thinking on this hand... I had to jam the pot on the flop, with the nuts, hoping to shut out the weak draws. Unfortunately for me, the weak draw stayed in, and hit another spade. What is your play here? Do you keep the pressure on, and scare the opponent out? Do you slow down and continue cautiously? Do you put him on two spades and get out?

On one final note... does it make a difference that these are penny tables and not a group of strong PLO veterans? Is there a different style of play one needs to adopt for this environment?

Anyway, that's all from me... discuss.
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Old 01-07-2005, 11:15 PM
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Hand 1 - No problem at all with betting the pot here. I would have bet 1/2 pot just to try to keep a 2 pair or straight draw in, which will happen at these limits. you could also check here, they will assume you raised AA but do not have spades, when you bet the pot you are screaming I have AA and 1 of them is a spade.

Hand 2 - when the 2 of spades hits take the free card. If your willing to bet .87 on the turn why not take the free river card and call .87 on the river if you do not fill up and you get him all in when you do since he has to have something and he will most likely bet into you after you showed weakness. Although he did have only .27 left but at this limit that is 12 big blinds, save it.

I would like to add that with a short stack this guy should have jammed the pot on the flop with top 2 pair and a flush draw, I don't like his play at all.
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Heheh... remember, these are penny tables. I think you're giving my opponents way too much credit.
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Hand one was fine, you where only getting more money from someone with a K or Q high flush (or maybe T high) or a set, don't want to let the set draw free.

Hand 2, this is what makes Omaha so rough. You pretty much have to give it up here - slow way down. Really sucks when it happens on the river after you have already put in two pot sized bets.
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