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    Stu Ungar OrionPro's Avatar
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    Default AQs - costing me a lot of chips

    Should I fold this PF after the raise? I wasn't sure if it was a resteal attempt (e.g. with a middle pair or worse)

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t35170)
    SB (t20810)
    BB (t51532)
    UTG (t67101)
    UTG+1 (t93690)
    MP1 (t19544)
    MP2 (t44095)
    MP3 (t14830)
    Hero (t68469)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, Q.
    5 folds, Hero raises to t8000, 2 folds, BB raises to t18000, Hero calls t10000.

    Flop: (t36700) K, 8, 9 (2 players)
    BB bets t10000, Hero calls t10000.

    Turn: (t56700) 8 (2 players)
    BB bets t23432 (All-In), Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t80132

    Results in white below:
    No showdown. BB wins t80132.


    [He showed AA]
    Last edited by OrionPro; 07-06-2006 at 02:54 PM.

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    Preflop it is foldable. The calls ok, but depending on read, table image etc etc a fold is better.

    Your call on the flop is horrible whichever way you cut it.

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    Hm yes you're right i'm doing the math with PokerStove now. Call would be possible against JJ and TT but no other big hands
    Last edited by OrionPro; 07-06-2006 at 03:19 PM.

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    Whoa there....

    You are more than likely behind, in fact it's hard to imagine what he could have that you beat. You've got three Aces (though he could easily have AK, in fact it's likely) and possibly three queens. The runner runner flush gives you 1 out at best. So say 4 or 5 outs if you are generous. That's 10%ish per street with every chance he's betting the turn and making you pay to see the river.

    If you are chasing with AQ on a K high flop with a reraise prelop you've got a massive hole in your game.

    He's milking you for chips here and you are letting him.

    I'm not trying to be harsh, you've asked for criticism and hopefully this helps. If I was sitting at a table with you and saw that hand (assume it was checked down) I would make a note that you were a chaser with one overcard and to bet at you with any moderate strength.

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    (I posted before you edited, but you got the point anyway )

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    Thanks for the feedback

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    preflop depends totally on your read on the opponent. it could very well be callable, pushable, or foldable, depending on how he plays.


    im not exactly sure why you called the flop? what were you looking for on the turn?

    well, with the hands he would RR pf and bet the flop, im not sure what hands you can beat even if you hit an ace. AK stacks you, AA stacks you, KK still stacks you, etc etc etc

    if you dont think he has a K, a Q gives you trouble too. AQ and QQ are very reasonable hands for his line.

    just fold the flop. if hes been pushing you around, do something about it preflop, where you MIGHT have an edge

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    I think the call pre-flop is ok but your looking for an ace or queen on the flop, or maybe some miracle straight or flush. You miss completely and he shows you that either he got some part of it or had a made hand from the start. Let it go there and then.

    If it was a blind defence then let him get away with it and get him another time.

    As it turns out there was virtually no way you were winning this hand (apart from a very nice flop) and you could have got away from it a bit cheaper.


    You were unlucky to run into aces but very lucky not to hit an ace or a queen on the flop.
    Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

    :kh :jd

    Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

    Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

    he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

    River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:




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    If you were in his position and had 88-QQ, would you raise here from the BB or just call?

    Also, would you fold lower PP 22-77 or call with them as well?

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    I play AQ much like AK, with one big exception: you do NOT want to see a king on the flop.

    I tend to let AK/AQ go on the flop if it doesn't hit me. With AQ and a flopped K, I scramble away from that hand as fast as I possibly can.
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