45 minutes in a 245 man freezout... 10K prize pool

I already have 5700 in front of me, the action has been crazy!

I'm 7th in chips but 2nd at my table... as I said the action was unusual mostely due to the fact a lot of really big hands have been dealt...

The chip leader at our table is already at 9000+ and he already pushed (or call) all in 4 times preflop twice with AA once with AK and once with JJ. He won all those hands.

That the only hand I saw him play + a few raise in unraised pot from late position and a few limp from late aswell... I had him labeled as a solid player... the only other hand he shown was 88 after he called my turn bet with a KQ25 board... he was right, I had 77

He saw me make a lot of position raises both pre and on the flop + take a lot of pot on turn after light flop action. I'm pretty sure he notice all those things...

Blinds are 50/100
I'm on te button with QQ

He min raise from UTG+1
I raise to 900 (700 to go for him)
He quicklyreraise allin...

Now?

If I fold I still have plenty of chips to play poker, and I rule this table...
On the other end, if I win this pot, I'm in dam good position to make the money, and if everything goes well, probaly a top 5.

His all in move really make me think about AK cause he want to remove my position advatage post flop... but I cant be sure of course... I probably behind the range of hand he can make that move with. But...

I know Jason will argue for the laydown... he may go as far as easy fold!!!

What do you think?

KJ

I think you got it, go for it!

I think you're answering your own question here . . . .

Here's what I'm thinking: I have an M of 38, I'm kicking the table's ass . . . . why get into a big confrontation with the only other stack that can hurt me?

Frankly, against a min raise UTG (solid player) and a huge M on the button . . . ask yourself what you hope to accomplish by raising PF . . .

Why don't we take a flop with this hand and play some poker? Reraising just pumps up the pot and allows a crafty opponent with a big stack to outplay us PF.

Against a shorter stack or weak player, I'd love the reraise here, and would love an all in play back at me. But if UTG has such a big stack, why is he putting so many chips at risk? Maybe he's a donk, but the only way to find out is now to call off our whole stack and maybe find out we're a huge dog.

Bleck . . . .

Before you make moves like this, always ask yourself "where is my money coming from"?

Oh, and BTW . . . with so many big hands out early it must be (all together now) . . . . .

Rigged.

Originally Posted by Jason75

Oh, and BTW . . . with so many big hands out early it must be (all together now) . . . . .

Rigged.

Definately rigged...

I tought for almost my entire time bank... Then decided he would have

A came on the flop K on the river and I was gone...

I hate poker... You double up so many time after a bad decision and go out as often after a good decision... well ok, it was'nt that good...

KJ

in my opinion, i would fold this fair enough if its AK your a slight favourite BUT although he could easily have AA KK why risk everything on a coin toss after all that work to get where you are?


I would stick it out for less risky plays




Ps.I try to reply before reading other replies to the thread so if this is contradicted or whatever then you know why

Originally Posted by KINGJACK

Definately rigged...

I tought for almost my entire time bank... Then decided he would have

A came on the flop K on the river and I was gone...

I hate poker... You double up so many time after a bad decision and go out as often after a good decision... well ok, it was'nt that good...

KJ

This is why with a big hand and position, I'm not sure what the raise accomplishes. If we label him as a "solid player", then ask ourselves what he's min raising in UTG+1 position, it looks something like this to me:

AA-TT/AK/AQ. So we have a strong hand now, but we could be in a lot of trouble . . . we've got 3 of those hands dominated, are dominated by 2 of them, and are a coinflip against AK (we tie QQ, but there's only one possible card combination for it, so I'm just ignoring it). I don't think this situation calls for a raise, it calls for us using our position. Once the A flops we get to see what our opponent does. If he checks, we bet, likely get raised if we're beat, and fold. If he bets, we can fold knowing that now there are only 2 hands we have beat.

Again, the reason we're going to play this one this way is because of how we label UTG+1 and the fact that the guy can bust us.

Originally Posted by Jason75

I don't think this situation calls for a raise, it calls for us using our position.

Ding ding ding!!!

I know, I know... I have to work on this... QQ-JJ-TT are probably the hands I misplay the most mid MTTs.

I also tend to think odds have memory... I knew 95% sure, that guy had AK, and I figured that despite the fact he was playing pretty well, he has been lucky enough I guess!!! That was my turn!!! QQ must hold this time!!!

KJ

Originally Posted by KINGJACK

Ding ding ding!!!

I also tend to think odds have memory... I knew 95% sure, that guy had AK, and I figured that despite the fact he was playing pretty well, he has been lucky enough I guess!!! That was my turn!!! QQ must hold this time!!!

KJ

Well, because the guy took your turn, it's obviously . . .

rigged.

Originally Posted by Jason75

Well, because the guy took your turn, it's obviously . . .

rigged.

In fact its good to know its rigged... if not, PFOers would win every online MTTs and the game would die very quikly!!!!

KJ