Aside form the fact these are "friends", why bother continuing to play with the same people if you know they're cheating?

it all depend of the amounts of $$$ on the table...

If we are talking about low buy ins... just leave that game. If we are talking about thousands of $$$, I would give them the fear of their life... and then, quit to play with them.

I hate cheaters... especialy dumb ones who think they are so smart!!!!

KJ

Originally Posted by wizard2788

well were only in high school and college so we dont play for thousands... but 20 buy ins do build up to couple hundreds.. and i kinda want to get some of that back.

Forget about it... leaves those games and move on to another one.

KJ

First thing that comes to mind is that "friends" don't cheat friends! If these guys are cheating you, they are NOT your friends - you're their patsy!

Second thing that comes to mind is why in the world would you show your cards to people you suspect of cheating? If they have a need to know what you have they should have to pay the price of admission to the showdown!! Generally speaking you should never show your cards but if you suspect cheaters then it would be absolutely never unless its at showdown!

Third thing that comes to mind is - what signals could they be sending? If your playing holdem, then only the hole cards consitute incomplete information - is this the info they are sharing? I'd be curious to know how they would do that without complicated signals that would be obvious at a table! Or are they co-ordinating betting strategy - i.e raise, call or fold?

Lastly - find another game! These "friends" simply aren't worth your company or your buy-in!

I have no moral objections to cheating cheaters by stealing their signals so you always know what they're playing . . . .

That being said, I'd listen to the commentary above. These are not your friends, they're taking advantage of you.

Frankly, I'd confront my "friends" if they were doing this and tell them to go fuck themselves . . . but that's just me.

I love the idea of using their cheating against them, If they are signaling the strength of their hand to each other then you can easily use it to take back your money, once you feel you've had enough back from them, then you tell them to go fuck themselves!

me and my friends would cheat all the time. however, we didnt keep it a secret ie: if your not cheating, its your own fault. we'd get drunk and play 5$ buy in cash games w/ .25 bb and no sb.

rarely would we cheat post flop. it was mostley "ah my cards suck... redeal", or switching cards w/ buddy. one time I satcked the deck (took my about 3 minutes, but the dumbasses didnt notice), and gave AA,KK,QQ,JJ to 4 players, gave AT to another player, and made the flop go KQJ. that was funny. they all slowplayed eachother till river.

all this ^^ was fun stuff. what you are part of sounds like they are trying to screw you. personally id quit the game. gl taping the signals though, i like the iddea.