I know we've talked about hourly rate and getting knocked out early in a tournament .. etc etc ...

But at what point does it become viable for settling for a prize in an online tourney.

This is not like a live tourney ...

You can decide to fold every hand as a short stack whilst getting into the prizes and most of the time doubling your stake. At the same time go and play another tourney anyway.

I never do that crap. I never have and I never will. I'll push every hand before I do that.

I don't settle for the prize until I'm out.

Originally Posted by the alex

I never do that crap. I never have and I never will. I'll push every hand before I do that.

Surely you are sacrificing bank roll here.

If you look at every business where staff are spending time on a task then it is better to take some pay for their time rather than no pay for their time.

What percentage of the time do you bust out just outside the prizes?

How deep do you have to go into the prizes to cover the times you bust in the bubble?

I'm not saying shut up shop if you are chip leader, but if the odds are against you making it deep into the prizes then it must be profitable to hit a prize.

I have 2 monitors, so I'm playing cash games at some level while I''m playing tournies. I've never clicked "away" and left to sneak into the money. I can't think of the last time I fell out on the bubble for no money.In a 1k+ field, I'd say that I average finishing in the 50's-70's. That's off the top of my head. I couldn't tell you how many times I've been down to the felt on the bubble and gone a run to build my stack and make the final 2 or 3 tables.

Maybe it's an ego thing, but I refuse to click away and sit out. If I'm bored , runnin' badly, and down to 7 or 8bbs, and not playing at my best and can't pull it together, I'll go kamikaze. If anything'll get me in the mood, it's a run. If I lose, I really didn't care anymore anyway.

I'm a FIRM believer that's it's better to go out with a bang than a whimper.

Originally Posted by the alex

I'm a FIRM believer that's it's better to go out with a bang than a whimper.

Even if it means a losing day rather than a break even day .. thats not good business

Originally Posted by G_The_Jester

Even if it means a losing day rather than a break even day .. thats not good business

I'm not scared to lose money in the form of an entry fee. If you're counting every penny, nickel, dime, and dollar when you play tournaments as large as I do (I like 800+ fields or it isn't worth my time.), you're gonna get lucky and sneak into the money or dribble down to the felt. You're never gonna win.

I've said it once and I'll say it again- I will never, ever, ever click "Away" to sneak into the money. I think it's a weak mentality. You've gotta aim for at least final table. Everything else should be unacceptable. I'm makin' about 4 final tables a week and it's pissing me off to no end because anything less than final 3 is unacceptable to me, personally.

EDIT: Crunch all the numbers you want, post them, and I won't change my outlook on this topic.

On the large fields that I mentioned, UB is the only exception because their structure puts me great spots no matter what the field.