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  1. #1
    River Rat Lamby100's Avatar
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    Default How'd I play this?

    How do you guys think I played this? I'm not sure if it was good or bad, any critique greatfully received!

    I'll tell you my thoughts once we've had a couple of replies.

    Seat 1 : Hero has $1,120
    Seat 2 : wbrandler has $1,700
    Seat 3 : chetti has $3,330
    Seat 4 : chetlawnson has $2,810
    Seat 5 : HATSCH has $7,290
    Seat 7 : crip210 has $270
    Seat 8 : sgtstanford has $550
    Seat 9 : pedge has $930
    crip210 is the dealer.
    sgtstanford posted small blind.
    pedge posted big blind.
    Game [17] started with 8 players.
    Dealing Hole Cards.
    Seat 1 : Hero has
    Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 1 min.
    Hero called 60
    wbrandler folded.
    chetti folded.
    chetlawnson called 60
    HATSCH folded.
    crip210 folded.
    sgtstanford called 30
    pedge checked.
    Dealing flop.
    Board cards [ ]
    Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 1 min.
    sgtstanford checked.
    pedge checked.
    Hero bet 60
    chetlawnson called 60
    sgtstanford called 60
    pedge folded.
    Dealing turn.
    Board cards [ ]
    Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 1 min.
    sgtstanford checked.
    Hero checked.
    chetlawnson checked.
    Dealing river.
    Board cards [ ]
    sgtstanford checked.
    Hero bet 120
    Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 1 min.
    chetlawnson folded.
    sgtstanford called 120
    Showdown! (results in white below)
    Seat 1 : Hero has
    Hero has Straight AKQJT
    Seat 8 : sgtstanford has kd 7s
    sgtstanford has Two Pair: Kings and Queens
    Hero wins 660 with Straight AKQJT
    Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

    :kh :jd

    Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

    Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

    he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

    River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:




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    I'm not a fan of playing JTo UTG, I'd fold PF.

    Post flop dosen't look bad but it looks like you almost got what you wanted but were still unsure about your hand because of the FH possibilty. Hands like this can turn into traps pretty easily.
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    I bet every street here. Checking the A screams that you either hit it or made a straight. While its not a horrible idea checking the scare card hoping someone has it and you can then CR, I bet you would've gotten someone stringing along and could've gained a few more bets here.
    BOSS

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    Is this a limit or No/limit? Next time don't cut off the header, we don't care if it's play money or not.

    If I have to ask.... and it's NL.... you screwed it up....


    Check the flop. Proba bly getting checked around, only call a bet if you have odds - 1 out.

    Turn, bet the 3/4 pot (if it's NL), this will finally induce action to see if you are beat.

    Rivers a good card, again bet 1/2-3/4 pot, this time for value.
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

    Luck is a Residue of Design.

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    This was my usual $10+1 SnG on VC-Poker

    The reason I bet the flop was because I had been reading an article that day that said if you are willing to call a bet (which a bet of 60 I would have) then why not make the bet yourself, that way, people in late position are less likely to try and steal the pot with a big bet.

    The reason I checked the ace when it came is for the reason that Seany said, I figured I could check raise as there must be an ace somewhere (you know what the usual £10+1 guys are like, any ace will do). Unfortunately I was wrong and it got checked round.

    I only bet 1/4 of the pot on the end to try and encourage callers or someone to come over the top, again nobody wanted to know.

    I think your right Marm, I would think the K7 is calling me down so I should have bet bigger on turn and river.

    P.S. Does anyone know of a converter for VC-Poker (Tribeca Tables)
    Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

    :kh :jd

    Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

    Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

    he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

    River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:




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    Lamby100,

    What about preflop? Do you always call in that spot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    Is this a limit or No/limit? Next time don't cut off the header, we don't care if it's play money or not.
    Yeah. This is just all-around uuuuuglay.

    PF- PEOPLE!!! STOP LIMPING UNDER THE GUN!!! Nothing good comes from limping in the front. Period!!! If you wanna play a weak hand up front, I wouldn't recommend it, but if you're gonna do it, RAISE!!! If you insist on playing weak hands in a weak manner, stop playing weak hands.

    Flop- Why are you minimum betting? Nothing good comes of this either. You're betting the bottom of a straight draw. I'm all for probe betting a draw, but the bitch end of broadway's a "nuh-uh" in your position. Not to mention that a min. bet gives you NO information and tells your hand. If you're gonna probe, bet 150 here, but it's too early to bet draws on flop like these on a straight draw. There's a HUGE difference between betting 45 on a 2-6-7 board and betting JT to Q-Q-K board.

    Turn- OK. you hit your broadway. But you have no idea how good it is. WOWIE!!! You hit your draw. You know you've got action and... you check. There's a club draw. People with any pair got to see the turn cheaply and you check. OK. The texture of the flop was bad to bet a draw making it great to bet your straight right here right now. The people who played their Kx and Ax have hit the card the they wanted to hit. Take their money.

    River- HUH?!!! I'm pushing hard here to look like I'm bluffing. Pretty clear no one has a full house, but people will call 500 here more than they'll call 250 with their bad Kings and Aces.

    I'm not being mean, but man, this was bad. This was really bad. I'd put a "weak" note right next to your name and call on a bad draws to the nuts knowing that when I hit I'll take all your chips.
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    GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
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    I hope it doesn't seem like I'm picking on you because I'm just breakin' your balls a bit, but I understand why Villian called you with J7 in the hand you describe in your sig.
    Quote Originally Posted by FaDi View Post
    GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
    GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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    I don't understand some of your comments Alex, Why would I raise UTG with JTo, that's asking for trouble. I just want to see a cheap flop, not one hand had been raised pre-flop so far in the tourney so I was reasonably confident I could see the flop here with a limp and I like to see a couple of flops if I can do so for cheap to try and build a stack early on.

    I don't understand how the bitch end of broadway makes any difference? If you hit broadway it's the nut straight whether you have TJ in your hand or AK, makes no difference. Also if I hit a 9 that's the nut straight on that board as well. I'm betting 60 into a 240 chip pot with the open ended nut straight draw, especially with callers I'm getting great odds and have built the pot a bit too.

    I then check hoping to get a bet to check raise but unfortunately that didn't happen, with the flush draw and full house draw here I probably should have led out, I accept that!

    As I said on the river I bet enough to either entice some calls or a steal attempt. Because of the previous lack of action I didn't feel that they would call anything larger here. Maybe they would maybe not.

    I really can't see why it was "really bad", please explain further. I'm here to learn.

    Again I can't see why you would make a "weak" note about me but if it means you'll call a pot sized raise with top pair awful kicker (as in my sig) then I'm happy, I'll win more than I lose that way.
    Bad Beat of the week 27/08/2006:

    :kh :jd

    Flop - :jc :3s :6d I raise 2/3 pot, Villian calls.

    Turn :kd - I raise to put villian all in, he calls

    he flips over :4d :4s :eek:

    River :4c :rant: :mad: :rant: :eek:




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    He wants you out of the hand PF, that's what Alex is saying.

    Also, lamby, you should start trying to keep your bets consistent with one another, it will actually induce and fool more people. You bet the flop, but a small bet of 1/4 the pot, and the check the A on the turn? I'm sorry but this seems too much like you now have a set of aces or a straight. You try to get some action on the flop and then show weakness on the turn? Screams monster. If you had the K you would've bet almost the pot on the turn (only someone with an A is calling or raising and you can take it from there). The odd betting patterns would have me laying down 2 pair and not paying off your straight.
    BOSS

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